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This thread was suggested to help those who didn't follow the RHS development threads understand what is going on with Allied aircraft replacements and production.

Not too long ago it was requested we get rid of replacements for Allied aircraft - in favor of on map production for everything.
There were several reasons for this:

1) Allied aircraft can ramp up production

2) Allied aircraft can sunseet production and not go on forever

3) Allied aircraft production chains can combine so that some types (the extreme case being P-47) will end up at massive levels

This was done comprehensively and is complicated. An example is given here:


The ROC Lancer/P-43 upgrades to Kittyhawk P-40D - which itself upgrades to Kittyhawk P-40K (rate = 12)

The Mohawk IV/P-36 upgrades to Kittyhawk P-40D - which still upgrades to P-40K (rate = 20)

The ROC I-16 upgrades to Kittyhawk P-40D - which still upgrades to P-40K - although this is a technicality - since there is no ROC I-16 production to upgrade. It does mean, however, that UNITS using the I-16 can upgrade to the P-40K when it becomes available.

The Hawk 75 upgrades directly to Kittyhawk P-40K - resulting in a combined Kittyhawk P-40K production total being larger than just derived from Kittyhawk P-40D (Hawk 75 rate = 5)

so total Kittyhawk P-40K rate should equal 37

What this means is that you cannot tell what the future Allied production of aircraft will be by looking at replacement or production rates on the intelligence reports section of the game interface. Neither can you tell by looking at the locations where aircraft will be produced - at the factories. Both are INDICATIONS that a type will produce at a certain rate - but UNLESS you trace ALL types of planes to find out how they upgrade, you are likely going to miss important components of the evenual production of the plane in question. In the example above, there was a concern that there were not enough of the British variations of the P-40 - but it turned out the numbers were already in there.

We put "off map production" at the map edge insofar as possible: Russian at Krasnyarsk of course, Allied at Canada, United States, New Orleans and San Diego (mostly - a few also at Long Beach). These locations should not be too often subject to enemy bombing or capture - and they should have ample ability to transfer to useful locations.

Other locations with Allied aircraft production represent actual on map factories - and these include Vancouver BC, Seattle, Tacoma (which in this case includes the biggest factory in the world at Renton), LA and Long Beach, Sydney, and Hyderabad. There are also two locations in the USSR: Irkutsk (on Lake Baikal) and Komsomolsk (the largest aircraft plant in the USSR - this being split so it "grows" when the later version of the Sturmovik enters production). These locations can be captured and - although they start at 0 - converted to Japanese types and will ramp up from zero. [Japanese plants can also be captured by the Allies - but they won't produce]

There is one Allied plant captured at the start of the game. China Aircraft Industries LTD plant at Canton is tooled to make the Axis Hawk at a rate of zero. This is the SAME plant as Hindustand Aircraft Industries LTD at Hyderabad - where the company fled - taking with it 100 kits for Hawks - which WILL produce (and then upgrade to P-40s or something like that). The Canton plant is chrome - I didn't think it would work - but it does work - IF the Japanese spot it and convert it to something useful - and ramp it up (and feed it engines and HI points). There is also a strange plant at Bangkok - it had produced several types but was not in use when the war began - is tooled for Axis Hawk but again at zero - and won't do anything unless the Japanese decide to make it. But it will produce if they do. It had produced the earlier scout bombers for RTAF - then went on to produce Hawks - but the order was completed - and it seems unlikely anyone would want more. I use it to produce Oscars - which were put in RTAF service - but IRL these were not locally produced. However, the plant and workers required for finaly assembly exist both at Canton and at Bangkok. [There is also the Royal Thai Navy Dockyard at Bangkok - RHS is full of this sort of thing - even the small shipyard at Cebu is present, and the larger one in Central China at Wuhan]