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I'm trying to get a sense of what the top perceived/experienced issues are for players as of 1.02j. If you've played 1.02j, please let us know what are your top three unresolved bugs, in order of what you feel is the highest priority. This can be what bug you see the most, what is the most annoying to you, etc. the ranking is up to you. Please check the 1.02k fixed list here to see what's already being addressed before posting. Thanks!

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Is this some kind of indication that you guys believe that most of the bugs have been fixed? I hope not.

1. Land combat happening during Naval Phase
2. Minor Countries being able to blockade MP declaring war on it's ports (aka Sweden blockading St. Pete's)
3. Loan Corps PP fixed

This is just the tip of the berg.

1) Problems with temp access, esp. disappearing garrisons in ceded provinces. This can be worked around by choosing enforced access as a peace condition, but there's not much point to temp access if you always have to take enforced access anyway. (Possibly related: third parties at war with the original owner are still entering ceded provinces without permission. Both bugs seem to be caused by the game inappropriately treating ceded provinces as still belonging to the original owner.)

2) Problems with besieging Ottomans.

3) C of R morale.

Could we just get an updated bug list like Monadman was maintaining? I believe Delatbabel recognizes the value of a bug tracking system and hopefully will be providing one. The focus for v1.03 should be on resolving ALL remaining game bugs and PBEM issues. There aren't that many remaining, are there? Then focus can be on moving forward with other feature enhancements and improvements.

ORIGINAL: NeverMan
Is this some kind of indication that you guys believe that most of the bugs have been fixed? I hope not.

No, just trying to get an idea of which are the ones that are bothering players most to help with prioritization.

Everyone, please keep this thread to posting your top three bugs. Discussion about other concerns or general direction can happen on other threads.

3 bugs:
1) pp problem
2) naval phase combats that shouldn't be happening.
3) MORE KINGDOMS!
4) COMBAT without cheating for both naval and land phases

oops thats 4!

Maybe I am the only one having these glitches:

1. free siege victory- the defenders disappear.
2. post victory access termination- when all your troops in a ceded province you just received in victory conditions; get moved when the access time is up
3. Major power/minor power stacking not being able to seige a city, you have to leave the offending minor corp outside; happens occasionally


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ORIGINAL: Termite2

Maybe I am the only one having these glitches:

1. free siege victory- the defenders disappear.

Are you sure this is not due to foraging losses? Foraging in a besieged city is pretty savage. I often see the defenders disappear when I besiege a city, but it's always due to foraging.

ORIGINAL: pzgndr

Could we just get an updated bug list like Monadman was maintaining? I believe Delatbabel recognizes the value of a bug tracking system and hopefully will be providing one. The focus for v1.03 should be on resolving ALL remaining game bugs and PBEM issues. There aren't that many remaining, are there? Then focus can be on moving forward with other feature enhancements and improvements.

Yes, I would like to see the bug list that was being maintained, so I can capture it into an appropriate bug tracking system. Unfortunately it disappeared from the bug maintenance thread without any explanation. Can we have it back please?

ORIGINAL: delatbabel

ORIGINAL: Termite2

Maybe I am the only one having these glitches:

1. free siege victory- the defenders disappear.

Are you sure this is not due to foraging losses? Foraging in a besieged city is pretty savage. I often see the defenders disappear when I besiege a city, but it's always due to foraging.

No, if Termite2 is talking about what I think he is, sometimes garrisons just disappear during the besieger's phase, so it's not foraging; this seems only to happen when an Ottoman corps is involved in the siege, and is part of the Ottoman bug I was referring to above. (Other weird things can happen too, like strange repatriations. There's a thread on this somewhere.)

Nathan

I have as the FR; beseiged 25 BR factors in London; no breach, the BR just disappear after the land combat phase, doesn't happen all the time; have seen it with Pr vs Aus also; this is not a foraging loss; with at least 15 factors defending.

ORIGINAL: Termite2

I have as the FR; beseiged 25 BR factors in London; no breach, the BR just disappear after the land combat phase, doesn't happen all the time; have seen it with Pr vs Aus also; this is not a foraging loss; with at least 15 factors defending.

Was there an Ottoman corps among the besiegers? That's the only way it's been reported so far, I think, so if you've got a save of it happening with no Ottomans, I'm sure Marshall would appreciate the file.

Nathan

Btw i wont call the missing kingdoms a priority bug, its a much wanted, but i prefer bugs fixed more.
 
1.PP shares for "combinded" forces, this is very essential to the gameplay. Just like lend corps+Leaders/Fleets where.
2.Essential the bugs who affect gameplay, im not sure of the list currently. But it includes disapearing corps, factors, strange evacs,retreats.
 
Regards
Bresh
 
 

ORIGINAL: ndrose

ORIGINAL: Termite2

I have as the FR; beseiged 25 BR factors in London; no breach, the BR just disappear after the land combat phase, doesn't happen all the time; have seen it with Pr vs Aus also; this is not a foraging loss; with at least 15 factors defending.

Was there an Ottoman corps among the besiegers? That's the only way it's been reported so far, I think, so if you've got a save of it happening with no Ottomans, I'm sure Marshall would appreciate the file.

Nathan

No Ottomans; only MP forces, FR/BR, PR/AU, with at least 15 defending factors, no minors involved; I am running Vista, was wondering if this might be the problem; haven't figured out the attachment process approval process for Vista, keep coming up with an error when trying to attach; vista help was no help.[:(]

ORIGINAL: delatbabel

ORIGINAL: Termite2

Maybe I am the only one having these glitches:

1. free siege victory- the defenders disappear.

Are you sure this is not due to foraging losses? Foraging in a besieged city is pretty savage. I often see the defenders disappear when I besiege a city, but it's always due to foraging.

Nope, this has been posted to the bug list, and it has happened to me several times across pbem games...where a simple corp in the area, rather than besieging, conquers the minor... I dont think this has been fixed...

AND, this has happened without Ottoman...I was France besieging a counquered minor in Germany...this is a general bug that pops up...

The problem where you can't add a free state corps counter to a stack outside of that free state's home borders, even if factors are available.

1. Can't add a new free state cors via naval supply.
Sweden was my free state and I get new cavalry factor. I tried to add sweden III corps via naval supply to Greece as a reinforcements (yes, naval supply line was correct) where was Sweden I corps and some other my corps. Didn't work out and I had to put that corps to Sweden!

2. Minor country control step
Played with GB and in peace with all majors. I dow Bremen and France get control. Then my ally Prussia send's in their corps (Prussia and France are at war) and conquer Bremen! This is a bit unclear in original rules, but could there be a "sponsored by..." status for minors in this kind of situation? So that Prussia have no change to get involved in this case.

3. Loan corps from ally
When you try to loan a corps from you ally (AI), it's not possible. If you select a corps you would like to loan, You can't open a diplomatic window. If you open a diplomatic window and try to loan a corps, it tells you that "corps not selected" or something like that.


(4. Naval system)
This is not a bug, but why this stupid EiH naval system? Is it possible to get some day original EiA naval system at least as a option....

Hey guys:
 
I know this has been mentioned a thousand times but is everybody OK with the loaned corps pp being as:
 
ALL MP Winners gain the full pp.
ALL MP loses share the pp loss.
 
This is not difficult to code but just want a sense that this will be a positive change?
 
 

When you say shared, I am assuming you mean they will lose 1/2 PP for each Corps THAT MP has present and when you say gain I assume you mean ALL THE MP present will gain the same amount.

If that is correct, then yes, that's the way, IMO, I think it should be done and that's the way I always played and interpreted the rule.

Neverman:
 
If the land battle were:
 
Attacker:
2 Pr corps
4 Au corps
 
Defender:
4 Fr Corps (Max 15 factors for easy math)
 
IF Attacker wins then Pr +2pp, Au +2pp
IF Attacker loses then Pr -1pp Au -2pp
 
This make sense?