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Vickers Mk IV vs Pz II F
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:07 am
by d1973
I tried to create a balanced scenario,but was stopped in my track by a disturbing issue:
I saw the armament of the Vickers IV light tank consists only of 2 MG with no armor penetration value,while the 2cm gun on the PZ 2F is a better weapon from this point of view.But the "1m-uk.ad-Arm Sqn-Mk VI " estab (16 light Vickers) has an Anti Armor value of 90(5.625 per vehicle) much,much more than Pz2F ("1m-hr.pzd-Lt Pz Pl – II" estab)wich has an a armor value of 14 (2.8 per vehicle). Is there something wrong here,or the only wrong thing is my understanding capacity???[&:][&:][&:]
If anyone can help,many thanks!
RE: Vickers Mk IV vs Pz II F
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:28 am
by d1973
OK,I looked on other posts and checked again the armor penetration of the 50 cal HMG,but still intrigued by the fact that even if the AP value of the 50cal is smaller than that of the 2cm KwK 30 L55 tank gun,the Panzer 2F has a much weaker anti armor value than the gunless Vickers! Any reason,please.???
RE: Vickers Mk IV vs Pz II F
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:29 pm
by simovitch
The AArmFP is a product of armor-penetration and rate of fire. In the game, The 2cm KwK 30 L55 tank gun has significantly better (25%-50% better depending on the range) armour penetration than the .50cal, but the .50cal has more than twice the ROF of the 20mm.
So fear not - a high AArmFP does not mean it will penetrate armour thicker than what is allowed by that gun's penetration tables. See page 137 of the manual for descriptions of these FP values.
RE: Vickers Mk IV vs Pz II F
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:54 pm
by d1973
Yeah...I see.So let me see if I correctly understood: even if Vickers has an impressive A Armor value,having a max 20 armor penetration val it can only kill the Panzer 2 (with a 35mm front armor) only with a side or rear hit,and this from a maximum 250 meters range.Beyond this range,the Panzer 2 is invulderable to the Vickers' rounds.Is that correct?
PS:appreciate the quick answers you provided to the previous questions!
RE: Vickers Mk IV vs Pz II F
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:25 pm
by simovitch
ORIGINAL: d1973
Yeah...I see.So let me see if I correctly understood: even if Vickers has an impressive A Armor value,having a max 20 armor penetration val it can only kill the Panzer 2 (with a 35mm front armor) only with a side or rear hit,and this from a maximum 250 meters range.Beyond this range,the Panzer 2 is invulderable to the Vickers' rounds.Is that correct?
Yes, that's correct.