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Hi,

I made a quick edit for close combat: modern tactics allowing units to shoot and move through walls as they could in close combat III. While this may not be to everyone's taste, it removes my main frustration with infantry pathfinding in urban combat: they can't find the doors or windows when they need to, and I don't want to babysit them.

I also included a labeled version of the elements.txt file for players who wish to make their own element edits. (MS Excel works well enough)

Installation instructions in readme.

Enjoy!

Applied, the pathifinding for infantry is better (i tried only 2 battles), this seems like more Combat Mission (Barbarossa, Overlord, Afrika... for Shock Force i can't say) or even like a SPMBT in real time
 
I am a fan of realism but for the doors and windows pathfinding (and shooting) i prefer the way it does with this tiny mod applied
 
Some pathfinding problems are still there for vehicles and armoured in town

Hmm...
Could someone re-upload the mod? For some reason the file became undownloadable.

Here is the file

Thanks[:)]. It plays much better now[:)].

IMO the blocking walls thing was a very bad idea - AI isn't prepared to it and it makes aiming tank guns into buildings silly.

Can you use this "mod"....with others installed as well?  Thanks.  Or with other tweaks to the "workbook".

yes

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Available for download at CSO

http://www.closecombatonline.com/CSO/in ... erby=dateD



Move and Shoot Through Walls mod for Close Combat: Modern Tactics

by The Captain
steve.caires@gmail.com

Last modified June 04, 2008

Description:
This modification allows infantry to move and shoot through walls like they could in Close Combat 3. It modifies the elements.txt file from CCMT, and uses replacement values from Close Combat 3 for walls.

I have played Close Combat 3 for a few years, quite enjoying the multiplayer aspect. I boguht CCMT to have a similar experience, but updated with modern equipment. The difficulties in urban combat surprised me, because my troops could not move or shoot through walls, but were also not smart enough to reliably seek openings from which to shoot or move through. This edited file re-enables that ability. While it is clearly unrealistic behavior in a literal sense, I believe that soldiers would be able to find or make openings in urban combat. This mod gives them that ability. Enjoy!

Files in Archive:
Elements.txt - Original, unedited version of elements.txt from CCMT
Elementsmodified.txt - Modified elements.txt allowing soldiers to move and shoot through walls
ElementsLabels.txt - Labels added to columns so editors can see which columns control what. Best guesses based on Close Combat 3 Elements.txt file.
ElementsLabelsModified.txt - The above wall changes, with labels. As far as I know, you must remove these labels before you load the file into CCMT, but they are useful for editing purposes.

Installation:
Your copy of Modern Tactics must be patched to version "2007.12.7.1"

1) BACK UP the elements.txt file in your "Close Combat - Modern Tactics\DATA\BASE" folder

2) Copy "elementsmodified.txt" from this archive into "Close Combat - Modern Tactics\DATA\BASE"

3) Rename "elementsmodified.txt" to "elements.txt"

ChangeLog:
06-04-2008
-SoldierMoveRates were increased from '0' to the values from close combat III for all types with typeflag 'wall':
Prone: 40; Crouch: 35; Standing: 30 (These values affect movement)
-BlockHeight All was changed from 1, to 0 for all types with typeflag 'wall'. (Likely affects shooting)

Included Files:
Commented versions of the elements file, with labels guessed at by comparing with the CC3 elements file, were included so further edits can be made.

Happy editing and playing.

Thanks to:
-'Senior Drill' on the Matrix forums for saying that these factors were controlled by elements.txt
-CC3 developers for commenting their elements.txt file
-Strategy 3 Tactics and Matrix Games for an awesome new version of CC!

Hi All,

Will this work with Mod Swap?

Regards John

Here is the mod.ini for spinels data mod I posted

Just rename the txt files as per instructions given by thecaptain in the readme and place the new elements.txt in the **.ccm file.

And place this line in the mod.ini

elements.txt=\Data\Base\

[General]
Name=Spinel submod od VDV data mod for CCMT
Description=This plugin is For those wishing to play with more accurate (And powerful) To&E Russian VDV units with Spinel Changes
Game Version Required=1.0

[Exclusive Files]

elements.txt
BlueTeams.txt
RedTeams.txt
Soldiers.txt
Vehicles.txt
Weapons.txt

[Files]

elements.txt=\Data\Base\
BlueTeams.txt=\Data\Base
RedTeams.txt=\Data\Base
Soldiers.txt=\Data\Base
Vehicles.txt=\Data\Base
Weapons.txt=\Data\Base

[Hide Files]

Glad you guys are enjoying the mod! Let me know if there are any further chages you are interested in...

To use this / the "Move and Shoot Through Walls mod" -  While at the same time having used some of the tweaks (changing of the workbook, using spinels changes and  a few of my own)....

What exactly do I need to do?

Can I simply download this mod (Move and Shoot Through Walls mod)

And use these 3 steps...

Installation:
Your copy of Modern Tactics must be patched to version "2007.12.7.1"

1) BACK UP the elements.txt file in your "Close Combat - Modern Tactics\DATA\BASE" folder

2) Copy "elementsmodified.txt" from this archive into "Close Combat - Modern Tactics\DATA\BASE"

3) Rename "elementsmodified.txt" to "elements.txt




Or do I have to do all the things in Post #11????