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How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:35 pm
by AW1Steve
Any suggestions as to how to rapidly produce supplies? It's my first time playing Japan , I'm shipping all kinds of resources to the Home islands, and have turned just about everything off to conserve supplies. I'm guessing I probably shut down too much , as the resource storage is bulging , but the supplies are just trickling.

I can't include a screen shot , as I've never been able to run the game in windows (advice here would also be appreciated). Thanks in advance for any assistance.[&o][&o][&o] There are people who are going to be starving in Japan (not to mention the rest of the Empire!). [:D]

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:45 pm
by Mike Solli
I assume you are talking about supply and not resources.  It's simple spend less than you produce. 
 
You produce supply two ways, through Heavy Industry and resource centers. 
 
Resource centers produce supply automatically.  There's nothing you can do to increase production.
 
Heavy Industry is a different animal.  Make sure there is sufficient oil and resources available.  If there are, supply will be produced as a byproduct.  If not, no supply is produced.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:49 pm
by AW1Steve
Resources and oil are threatening to overwhelm storage. What settings do you recommend of my indusries (except for some really vital a/c production, virtually everything is turned off).

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:53 pm
by Mike Solli
Hmm, can you give details?  Mod (if any), date, # supply currently on hand, etc...

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:54 pm
by Mike Solli
How much expansion have you already done?

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:58 pm
by AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

How much expansion have you already done?
I'm playing stock, current upgrade. I've slightly expaned two aircraft factories. Everything else is shut down. I have noticed some increases , but they are really slow , and unimpressive. Should I shut the rest of production down for a while?Even when I had everything down , the increases were far from impressive.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:22 pm
by John 3rd
I would recommend the discussion on Economics that has raged on my Forum--'Forlorn Hopes--The Japanese Respond' starting about page 20.  I nearly collapsed my economy.  I KNEW there were issues, I just didn't understand how serious they were.
 
Would also recommend loading Tracker to help watch and organize the information.
 

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:28 pm
by AW1Steve
Thanks. I will do that.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:50 pm
by rubisco
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
I'm playing stock, current upgrade. I've slightly expaned two aircraft factories. Everything else is shut down. I have noticed some increases , but they are really slow , and unimpressive. Should I shut the rest of production down for a while?Even when I had everything down , the increases were far from impressive.

The stuff you've shut down: armaments, engines, aircraft, naval etc do not use supplies. They consume only Heavy Industry points. The fact that you shut them down will make no difference to your supplies budget. Aside from troops and base enhancements, the only thing that consumes supplies are industry repairs.

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RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:32 pm
by niceguy2005
Since no one has said it out right I'm going to state the obvious.  The fastest way to ramp up supplies is to shut down factories.  I needed to rebuild my supply levels in the HI and I turned off a lot of less important production...probably less than 20% of production and I have been gaining 2K to 3K of supplies per day in Tokyo alone.  I'm sure the other bases are similarly gaining supplies.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:42 pm
by USSAmerica
But, factories don't consume supplies to produce their output, they consume HI points.  Expanding and repairing factories do use supplies, lots of 'em.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:44 pm
by saj42
You stated that oil and resources in the home islands are 'bulging' and that most factories are turned off.
What is your HvyInd point stockpile?
Now for the obvious question. Your Heavy Industry factories are turned ON aren't they ???
No HI production - no supply generation.

Also have you turned off repairs to the a/c R&D factories? - this will put a small drain on your supplies.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:47 pm
by niceguy2005
ORIGINAL: USS America

But, factories don't consume supplies to produce their output, they consume HI points. Expanding and repairing factories do use supplies, lots of 'em.
Your totally correct. See what a noob I am at Jap production. I meant shut off factory repairs/expansion. This is what I did.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:09 pm
by tsimmonds
How many HI factories are there in the home islands? 15-20,000? Can't remember. Anyway, that (plus the number of resource centers) is the limit on how much supply you are going to produce every turn.

That is, if you don't expand factories. Which, if you don't, you will likely wish that you had later.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:15 pm
by Mike Solli
Hey irrelevant, how much do you usually expand the HI factories?  I rarely expand them by more than 1-200 over the first year or so.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:46 am
by Mynok

I don't expand HI much at all until the resources/oil are all captured and repaired. Then I will get them as close to maximum as possible without draining my supply net.


RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:15 am
by AW1Steve
Thanks for the tips guys! I've started expanding (relatively slowly) my HI and have noticed a definate increase. If I can keep the resources and oil matching , I might actually recover (but it's kind of late , 7/1942).[:)]

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:30 pm
by Ken Estes
Ouch! That is tough, but I did worse. One thing, have you grasped the in/out toggling of how you turn on or off economy and factories? It is off-beat for me, but if it reads 'halt' it is ON and if it reads 'restart' it is OFF. If you have let your industry remain off, you do not want to restart it until you have turned all factory demand off, then get it going, note the rise in heavy industry (HI) pool numbers [and supplies and fuel], then add - gradually - the factories you want, watching your HI numbers. Joe Wilkerson guided me well last year through all the hoops in my posting 'My JA Industry Died' in the tech spt forum, most instructive.

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:36 pm
by Mynok

Helps to think of it more as "what will happen if I click here".

RE: How do you rapidly ramp up supplies if you are playing as Japan?

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:45 pm
by tsimmonds
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Hey irrelevant, how much do you usually expand the HI factories? I rarely expand them by more than 1-200 over the first year or so.
Depends on what kind of luck you have capturing oil and resources. Doesn't make sense to expand HI if you aren't going to be able to have enough raw materials to feed into them....