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SNAFU
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:07 pm
by sabre1
So what is the "official" meaning for the anacronym SNAFU. Is it "FU" or "fouled up". I got in a debate over this with my father.
Thanks for the history lesson from those in the know.
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:18 am
by Terminus
I'm fairly certain that "fouled up" is a later, PC'ified version. "F*cked up" being the original.
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:24 am
by Brigz
ORIGINAL: Terminus
I'm fairly certain that "fouled up" is a later, PC'ified version. "F*cked up" being the original.
Same goes for FUBAR. Pretty sure most people in the military would intend the stronger term rather than the weaker and that's probably true of it's origin. Raunchy language helps round off the edges of military life.
@sabre 1
So what did your Dad say?
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:05 am
by Procrustes
I grew up with an old man who was in the AEF durring WWI - he was my fishing buddy for 15 years. He would occasionally sing old marching songs to me, but he would substitute PC words even when it ruined the rhyme. An example:
You're in the army now
You're not behind a plow
You'll never get rich
You son of a bee
You're in the army now
Wish I could remember them all. Some of the raunchier ones I only heard a few times, and always had to guess at the true words. Most were pretty funny. A couple were very sad/despairing.
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:23 am
by JeF
Hi,
ORIGINAL: sabre1
So what is the "official" meaning for the anacronym SNAFU.
"Situation Normal: All F*cked Up"
Wikipedia is my friend :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNAFU
Take care,
JeF.
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:08 pm
by Grell
Ah that explains it thank you Jef.
Regards,
Greg
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:46 pm
by sabre1
My father who is a very devout and upright man, was horrified that SNAFU was a vulgar term. The reason all this started was due to a local newspaper using the term. I told him I was surprised that they would use SNAFU due to the definition. He was adamant that the word did not imply what it meant. He is just sulking now. Thanks for all the responses. I knew you guys here would know this one.
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:55 pm
by Widell
Or, if you want to find, among other useful things, what TARFUN is short for, the link below is a gold source:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:21 am
by Arjuna
But that urban dictionary doesn't even have GIFU - "Grand Imperial F**k Up".[;)]
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:41 am
by morvwilson
SNAFU was even made into a cartoon charactor with Mel Blanc doing the voice over.
Meet Private Snafu![8D]
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:38 pm
by 105mm Howitzer
Inthe 80's we used the coarser variety of FU. [:-]
RE: SNAFU
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:14 pm
by oldspec4
In late '60s and early '70s, it was FTA (F... The Army). IIRC, notFondaJane actually made a movie w/ same title.