Informal Peace bug
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:14 pm
Informal peace seems to be accepted, but then not.
This is the facts:
Wars: France-Austria, Turkey-Austria, France-Russia.
Only Turkey has forces in an enemy home nation (Austria)
Russia did not attempt informal peace with anybody.
France attempted informal peace with Russia
Austria attempted informal peace with France
No one accepted informal peace.
From gamelog:
1805, Mar Russia Request Has Been Denied!
1805, Mar Turkey requesting alliance with Russia
1805, Mar Separate peace with Austria is being allowed by Turkey
1805, Mar France rejects informal peace with Austria
1805, Mar Austria and France attempt informal peace
1805, Mar Russia -2pp
1805, Mar Russia forced to break alliance with Austria
1805, Mar Separate peace not allowed by Austria
1805, Mar Russia rejects informal peace with France
1805, Mar France and Russia attempt informal peace
1805, Mar Austria attempting informal peace with France!
1805, Mar Imertia now Conquered
1805, Mar France attempting informal peace with Russia!
The rules:
A major power may not sue for peace to another major power that does not have forces within the suing home nation's borders unless, at the same time, it sues for peace to all major powers with which it is at war.
and:
Separate Peace and Allies
If a major power surrenders to some but remains at war with other major powers, a major power with which war continues may demand that an ally or allies that was a victor in the formal peace immediately break their alliance(s) with the major power still at war (and lose two political points for breaking the alliance).
The first part is not relevant. Noone is sueing for peace (as in surrendering).
The second part - even if it uses the word 'surrender' - clearly also is used on informal peaces. But as no peace was taken, noone should be able to demand an ally to break their alliance. Russia did nothing to get that -2PP penalty. We're in bug-land.
Workaround: Please do not attempt informal peace without first having an agreement with the counterpart. And remember to have allys check the allow seperate peace, if that's his intention.
This procedure should also be followed for alliances, as I believe there is a somewhat similar bug there, automatically accepting attempted alliances.
Attached is Russia gamefiles and Spain diplo-phase. Load game, run Spain to recreate.
/eske
This is the facts:
Wars: France-Austria, Turkey-Austria, France-Russia.
Only Turkey has forces in an enemy home nation (Austria)
Russia did not attempt informal peace with anybody.
France attempted informal peace with Russia
Austria attempted informal peace with France
No one accepted informal peace.
From gamelog:
1805, Mar Russia Request Has Been Denied!
1805, Mar Turkey requesting alliance with Russia
1805, Mar Separate peace with Austria is being allowed by Turkey
1805, Mar France rejects informal peace with Austria
1805, Mar Austria and France attempt informal peace
1805, Mar Russia -2pp
1805, Mar Russia forced to break alliance with Austria
1805, Mar Separate peace not allowed by Austria
1805, Mar Russia rejects informal peace with France
1805, Mar France and Russia attempt informal peace
1805, Mar Austria attempting informal peace with France!
1805, Mar Imertia now Conquered
1805, Mar France attempting informal peace with Russia!
The rules:
A major power may not sue for peace to another major power that does not have forces within the suing home nation's borders unless, at the same time, it sues for peace to all major powers with which it is at war.
and:
Separate Peace and Allies
If a major power surrenders to some but remains at war with other major powers, a major power with which war continues may demand that an ally or allies that was a victor in the formal peace immediately break their alliance(s) with the major power still at war (and lose two political points for breaking the alliance).
The first part is not relevant. Noone is sueing for peace (as in surrendering).
The second part - even if it uses the word 'surrender' - clearly also is used on informal peaces. But as no peace was taken, noone should be able to demand an ally to break their alliance. Russia did nothing to get that -2PP penalty. We're in bug-land.
Workaround: Please do not attempt informal peace without first having an agreement with the counterpart. And remember to have allys check the allow seperate peace, if that's his intention.
This procedure should also be followed for alliances, as I believe there is a somewhat similar bug there, automatically accepting attempted alliances.
Attached is Russia gamefiles and Spain diplo-phase. Load game, run Spain to recreate.
/eske