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ORIGINAL: Dili

Well apparently there will be no gun duds. Maybe it is accounted in hit probability but not all weapons are equal.

For example in WITM i got a problem. British have some very heavy rounds to have better deck penetration at limit range while other lighter rounds of same gun have less weight, also Italians and some British guns favour high muzzle velocity . It is dificult to find a way to account for that. Unless the code makes something. I dont know anything about the way the system works. I only know we should put maximum values for armor,range,penetration.

Big guns against tiny ships should have more problems to explode.

There isnt Gun tube life to stop the Bombardment deluge and overwork naval combat, tough i heard there will be something that will stop that. I hope not at expense of tactical abilities. No specific rounds for bombardment too.


Dud rate can be worked into accuracy. Number of hits per number fired is pretty automatically going to get you there. Just remember - a "shot" is more than one shell. A Japanese I boat carried only 17 rounds of 5.5 inch - I round that to 18 and give it 3 shots - 6 shells per shot.
But we don't really know the assumption of WITP designers - and it was not consistently applied in the data. Most subs had outrageously too many shots - if the values on surface ships are correct.

I think the normal AP or SAP round should be used for range, accuracy and effect values - since code won't let us pick and choose. That some round is longer ranged, has more effect, etc is not what matters - the normal case is what we should use in this simple model.

We might be able to make small ships more vulnerable by making them less durable.

Joe posted in an AE thread there is to be no modeling of directors at all.



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Will be weapons director exist and be hit?
Will be there an FCS bonus for blind night fire? It is not same thing of having a radar.

Finnaly hope that doesnt happen like with tiny aircraft bombs and hope small Naval rounds still can make extensive damage(not necessarely critical in floatation and engine but critical in fighting ability damage). I felt in WITP that too many weapons still worked while fires ravaged and the ship was almost going under.

Sea State/Weather affects hit probability?

Will float planes if in a ship can be hit?

Catastrophe Damage if Japanese torpedos explode? (i know there isnt way for the commander to sent them to the bottom before in case of aerial attack)


Just some thinking, might get more.

-Edit- After some level of Flotation damage the ship should get a downgraded hit probability to account for different attitude.

ORIGINAL: Nomad

I'm interested, give out some info. [8D]

ORIGINAL: Dili
It is not smokless powder, it is flashless powder. The italian doutrine was to avoid fighting at all in the night. From what i know neither Italians or the British issued flashless powder for big guns

Seeing as how the game engine doesn't really care, is there any rational reason for considering flashless/smokeless powder?
Just curious. Ciao. John

ORIGINAL: Dili
I didnt tought of how to implement any kind of performance degredation at night since i didnt found good enough information to consider it, all info i have got was contrary to that, it was m10bob that came with that issue. From what i know(not much) only US employed flashless propellant in big gun ships and after 2 years of war. So that is possibly an issue more relevant for Pacific then Mediterranean which maybe can means a crew with better/less night score for those ships that have/havent it.

ORIGINAL: Dili
5- It eventually can be tweaked by Ship crew Night Combat ability values, by either downgrading those that dont have flashless powder or by increasing the night abilities of those that have.