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Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:29 am
by Hornblower
Opinions solicited and most welcome on this one.

In your opinion, which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best? I don’t mean Armored, CD, etc – but rather a specific unit. Such as 3/5th Marines, or 2/9th battalion of the AIF, 25th Division USA, 2nd “Sendai” Infantry Division, 2nd Marine Division, Japanese Imperial Guard , etc.. While this question may not result in the same fiery exchanges as “zero vs wildcat” on the UV forum, we can only hope..

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:44 am
by KTNJR
32nd ID[8D]

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:27 am
by Canoerebel
1st Marine Raider Battalion

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:25 am
by okami
Chindits

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:38 am
by Hornblower
no Oz fans chimming in yet, suprising..

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:50 am
by Gem35
ORIGINAL: Hornblower

no Oz fans chimming in yet, suprising..
I'll bite..[;)]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdwOoinuJi0
Go Cubbies!!

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:46 am
by Hornblower
ORIGINAL: Gem35

ORIGINAL: Hornblower

no Oz fans chimming in yet, suprising..
I'll bite..[;)]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdwOoinuJi0
Go Cubbies!!

Ah.. Wrong Oz - funny non the less..

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:46 am
by thegreatwent
U.S. 33 Infantry Division

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:47 am
by Gem35
My favorite LCU are the bird forces from OZ.[:)]
Ok so they are not the best but my personal favorite.

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:58 am
by JeffroK
IMHO
 
Best US Division    1st Div  USMC
Best OZ Division    7th Australian Infantry Division
Best British Div      2nd Infantry Division
Best Indian Division 17th Indian Infantry Division (Though I also like 7th Indian Div)
 
Best japanese Division  18th Infantry Division.
 
I'll have a think about lower levels

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:10 am
by Minedog
did the 7th AIF actually serve as a Division in the Pacific? I seem to recall reading that the 6th & 7th AIF never fought as an entire Division after 1941.
 
The luckiest Australian Division was the 9th AIF, held out at Tobruk, did well at El Alamein, and missed out the Kokoda Track, Gona-Buna battles where MacArthur was learning to fight a amphibious war. Missed out on Greece and Crete.
 
The unluckiest is of course the 8th AIF Division that was almost entirely captured in Singapore, Rabaul and Timor. Even those that survived the war were all maimed in some fashion.

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:23 am
by Ambassador
5307th Composite Unit, the famous Merrill's Marauders.  However, I'm not sure it's in the game properly...

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:43 am
by John Lansford
Hard to say which LCU was the "best".  I certainly wouldn't have sent a Raider battalion to take Pelieliu, but you don't send the 1st Marine Division to recon a remote outpost either.

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:28 pm
by Feltan
My old unit, the U.S. 7th Infantry Division!
 
Regards,
Feltan

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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:08 pm
by Dixie
Chindits

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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:02 pm
by goodboyladdie
ORIGINAL: Dixie

Chindits

Are you Okami in disguise?

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:50 pm
by niceguy2005
Such a difficult question of how to measure best.  I'm going to go with the definition of most accomplished given the resources.  Therefore

IT's a tie between 2nd USMC and 1st Marine Defense Battalion.

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:38 am
by jwilkerson
ORIGINAL: John Lansford
Hard to say which LCU was the "best". 
Exactly.

What does "best" mean?

Did the most with the least?

Inflicted the most casualties?

Suffered the lowest loss rate per day in combat?

Had the coolest equipment?

Had the best training?

etc.


RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:05 am
by Iridium
ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

ORIGINAL: John Lansford
Hard to say which LCU was the "best". 
Exactly.

What does "best" mean?

Getting the most pay without seeing much action? [:D]

RE: Which land unit –covered in WiTP was the best?

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:53 am
by JeffroK
ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

ORIGINAL: John Lansford
Hard to say which LCU was the "best". 
Exactly.

What does "best" mean?

Did the most with the least?

Inflicted the most casualties?

Suffered the lowest loss rate per day in combat?

Had the coolest equipment?

Had the best training?

etc.


I would take it as a mix of the above (except training), that its performance over time in more than 1 combat was better than others. I listed a number because different Armies had different combat circumstances.

How do you differentiate 17 Indian Div which was basically in the front line from Dec 41 to Aug 45. It survived retreats and sieges and was a key player in the push to Rangoon, from 1st Div USMC which had much shorter days in combat but were usually the spearpoint of an amphibious assault but had substantial periods of leave in civilized arears.