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As someone who has played and quit many an MMO.. and hasn't played any in 16+ months now..

Having been somewhat annoyed at times with the people in some of the games, the guilds the groups etc..

And believing, at least partially, in the belief that we here are at least a tad bit smarter and more mature than others...

It just occurred to me.. Never ever having thought of this before...

Of all the other silly silly reasons and bases people use to put together MMO groups/guilds/etc.

Is there or could there be an MMO group comprised of Wargamers or those at least interested in wargaming?

Why not? All other really good groups transcend any one particular MMO title anyway.

I know there are a lot who also play MMOs here. Are we all that socially regressed to only play as loners or have we just not thought of this before?

Any interest? Any existing similar Groups?

What MMOs do you play or want to?

I'm considering:
Stargate Worlds
Warhammer Online : Age of Reckoning
Vanguard : Saga of Heroes (Reinvented Version)
Eve Online

Thoughts outside of "MMOs suck"?

I occasionally login to City of Heroes when I need a break from strategy games. Tried the others, none were really my cup of tea, COH is the only one that ever managed to really grab me.

What is MMO? [&:]

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

What is MMO? [&:]

Man, you are old.[:D]

+1 Gary, I'm right there with you...

ORIGINAL: Veldor

Thoughts outside of "MMOs suck"?

No.

Have a nice day
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CoH was awesome.  Now that company is coming out with a new one too but forget the name.  I'm sure many a wargamer was attracted to WW2Online.  I'm sure you can find whole groups of them there.

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

What is MMO? [&:]

Stands for Massively Multiplayer Online Game (ie. Most famous ones being Everquest & Worlds of Warcraft).

Many are among the most complicated games ever made so they can often have appeal to Strategy/Wargame enthusiasts.

Some are more mindless like Worlds of Warcraft though (But it made MMO's mainstream).

And most can be played, at least to some level, by a casual gamer with relative ease (Unlike most wargames).

In one game MMP there was a case where one clan was battling another clan.

Over some time some of the members of one clan became real life friends.

Then one of them died.

The friend decided to hold an on-line service.

The clan got together on-line and held a service within in the game!

The other clan came along, ambushed them and wiped them out. [X(]

It was posted as a video somewhere.

I wish I had the freetime left for it. Would love to give Warhammer a try.

I think you would need to pick a game where time logged in game isn't a barrier to who participates in what. What I mean by that is that unless your clan/guild is huge (and this one wouldn't be) differences in 'experience' mean you never end up playing together beyond the first couple of weeks, which rather defeats the point. Some just have much more time to devote to such games than others. Eve might be OK (never played it) as I think you continue to accrue XP even when offline?

Because of that, something like WW2OL or Planetside (if that is still going?), would be a better choice, maybe.

@ Veldor: Do a trial for EVE before you buy it. I found it interesting at first but it quickly becomes very tedious. Ultimately I never bought it because it was just plain boring. It is beautiful but definitely boring.

I bought Vanguard when it first came out. It sucked. I waited until last month and tried it again. It still was horrible. I found it lagged horribly (still) and the community is not all that welcoming. Even my sons quit after a couple months and went back to their old games (EQ2). I have no idea what you mean by "reinvented version". Did the allegedly fix it? Ditching Sony would be a good start.

I am looking forward to Warhammer though [:)]

I'm still going strong in WOW, playing the Horde. Avoid Vanguard, in either form, definitely not worth the time oy dinhero. Warhammer seems to be a solid winner, and there are rumors of a Starcraft Online and Star Trek online supposedly for 2009.

Played Planetside from the beginning. A massive battle in Planetside is still the most fun to be had in any MMO. I occasionally play WOW, COH, EO and LOTRO.

As someone who went from addicted to "tired of the genre" and walked away from MMORPGs about two years agao I can relate to the OP.

After falling in love withe the Ultima series of RPGs in the early 90s, I jumped on the bandwagon with both feet when the granddaddy of the genre hit the internet, Ultima Online. I stayed in UO for 4 years. In that game a friend of mine in the military and I developed a system for political intrigue and occupancy of political districts based on the established Guild Houses of the major role playing oriented guilds. We basically put in place an organized wargame layered over the base RPG to give some purpose to the otherwise mindless fights.

After that labor bore fruit, both of us tired of the UO world and jumped ship to the Dark Age of Camelot, which was all about team warfare pitting three realms against each other which included sieging castles in a wild frontierland. I spent 3.5 years addicted to DAOC building up one of the largest guilds in the game consisting of over 350 members.

When things finally got old in DAOC, most of my guild moved over to World of Warcraft. I tried it for a while, as well as Everquest 2, but the genre had lost it's luster for me and I gravitated back to spending most of my game time on wargames.

A guild of wargamers in an MMO is an interseting idea. You just may have a hard time finding enough wargmaers in any given MMO to from a viable guild.

I also started with UO many years and have been in WOW since launch. A group of guys who hang out over at Consimworld tried to get something going around Christmas but it never really took off. I do still play with one of the owners of MMP though (no, not Curt Schilling).

I briefly played Meridian 59, Ultima Online, and Dark Age of Camelot; was a beta tester for Asheron's Call. Then I played EverQuest for six years. I tried out Shadowbane and didn't care for it. My currently active subscriptions include World of Warcraft (which I will cancel at the end of this billing cycle) and Lord of the Rings Online (which I have a lifetime subscription for).

Lately I haven't been interested in playing any MMORPGs and have been spending my time playing single player PC games.

I play casually play Eve Online. I recommend you give Eve a try. There really is no other game like it, at least that I know about.

I also play Ultima Online, been playing since 2000 off and on. It's a fun game when they have events, which has been alot lately.

I have played (and never will again)
-zombiemud (ascii mmog) 1,5 years
-batmud (ascii mmog) 3 weeks
-ultima online 6 months
-shadowbane 2 weeks
-ww2ol 6 years
-wow 3 weeks
-eve 1 week

Playing now
-guild wars 2 months

Going to play & what I allready own
-Lotr CE I like the story aspect
-Hellgate CE I like the fps style shooting
-Tabula Rasa CE I like shooting and its RG game
-Age of Conan CE this is my favorite by all means

Going to buy in future
-Guild wars 2 CE first GW is so good that this one is a must buy

I bought the 1000 page centenary edition of conan (leather bound ~20€) that includes all the novels. Gonna read that before starting the game. Im still waiting it to be patched into better state though.

ORIGINAL: Veldor

Is there or could there be an MMO group comprised of Wargamers or those at least interested in wargaming?

You could start from MMO type wargames [:D]

What MMOs do you play or want to?

MekWars
It's MMO wargame based on BattleTech, open source, free, and there are many servers with different configurations (from Star League civil war up to Word of Blake Jihad). What's best, all players (most at least) are wargamers [;)]
Would you like to know more?

I've read something about mod for IL-2 Sturmovik, which effectively turns game into MMO type simulation, like legendary Air Warrior and Warbirds (does the 2 ring any bells?). I'd love to try it out, but I don't have anything of IL-2 nor up-to-date controllers (USB ones) in reliable working order. Those cost money, and right now I'm more interested buying some more BattleTech stuff and comics (never grew out of them). And BTW, that article had AAR about cargo plane turkey shoot: VERY interesting. If you have game and flight sim controllers in working order, try find the mod.

What else... C&C Renegade ... does it count? [:'(]