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OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:56 am
by wild_Willie2
Hi there, this image is of some destroyed tanks in Georgia.

Am I the only one to recognise a T34 as the second tank in this image ????

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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:59 am
by DuckofTindalos
It's a T-62. Look at the "bulge" in the middle of the gun barrel.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:04 am
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

Hi there, this image is of some destroyed tanks in Georgia.

Am I the only one to recognise a T34 as the second tank in this image ????

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T34/85 would be my guess too. Wonder why they employ 50 year old tanks though when they have been part of the Soviet Union for 50 years and there were enough "modern" tanks built. But IIRC also in the conflict in Yugoslavia in the 90s there were still some T34 around. Even Austria has more modern tanks! [:D] So I guess it´s some successor of the T34.




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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:06 am
by DuckofTindalos
Like I said... A T-62.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:12 am
by castor troy
What makes me wonder is the turret though. A T-62 has a very flat turret already while the one in Willie´s picture seems to have a pretty high one.

T-62

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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:23 am
by m10bob
With the damage, lighting, and distance, it is hard to identify without seeing the track gear and rollers.
Imagine this with the barrel sleeve..Hatch in the right area, but this is only one version of many.(T 55 series).
The hull is too low for a T 34 in the first pic..Either T or I are correct.
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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:31 am
by m10bob
This is showing a model of one in approx the same hull angle as the orig pic..Looks like the same gun..

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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:31 am
by DuckofTindalos
The barrel sleeve is just past midpoint on the gun barrel. That ain't no T-55 I ever saw...

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:48 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Terminus

The barrel sleeve is just past midpoint on the gun barrel. That ain't no T-55 I ever saw...




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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:56 am
by DuckofTindalos
Mmmm... Spam in a T-62 can...[:'(]

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:12 am
by HansBolter
Looks like an upgunned (retrofitted with a cannon from a T62) IS2 to me.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:29 am
by Local Yokel
I'm probably completely wrong, modern armoured vehicles are not my strong suit, but is the vehicle in fact a tank? I agree with castor that the turret looks high for a post-war Soviet tank design. Might this be an SP artillery piece, e.g. a 2S3 Akatsiya?

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:56 am
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: Local Yokel

I'm probably completely wrong, modern armoured vehicles are not my strong suit, but is the vehicle in fact a tank? I agree with castor that the turret looks high for a post-war Soviet tank design. Might this be an SP artillery piece, e.g. a 2S3 Akatsiya?


the SP artillery would have the turret further behind though and I think the tank in Willie´s pic has it in front.



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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:24 am
by hueglin
I agree with Terminus. It's a T-62 with upgraded armour on the front of the turret. Here is a picture of one withdrawing from Afghanistan.

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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:22 pm
by Zakhal
When I was in army back in -98 we trained inf close assault against tanks with moving T55:
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It was the only working tank I saw in army during my entire service and its still used afaik (T72s went to scrap allready though). The rest I saw (all disabled) were ww2 captured russian stuff and som german stugs in the brigades "tank park". In the forest there was one post-ww2 UK tank too that had been reduced to scrap after been used for target practise.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:51 pm
by bradfordkay
The photo that castor troy posted looks like a KV-1 to me... which is also WW2 vintage so I must be wrong...

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:41 pm
by greg_slith
The KV series had smaller road wheels, while the T-34 series had the large wheels.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:51 pm
by Feltan
Hi guys,

It is a T-72, probably an M model or an A model with a "Dolly Parton" armor upgrade. Although we can't visualize it, it probably has a Command and Control upgrade using GPS courtesy of the US.

Georgia only has T-55's and T-72's, and that ain't a T-55. Additionally, the sole armor battalion of the Georgian military is located in Gori -- which is ground zero for the latest battles.

Regards,
Feltan

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:56 pm
by Mynok

Something sure popped-the-top on that front tank. Sabot round or airstrike?

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:22 pm
by bobogoboom
i imagine someones going to be trying to order some m1a2 or lepord 2 very soon.