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Netherlands setup AI

Netherlands Forces
4-3 INF, RES 3-2 MIL, RES 2-2 MIL, 3-2 TER, 1940 FTR2, 1941 LND3. 3 Naval units, 1 Sub, 10 CP, 1 TRS, 1940 2 Naval units

Netherlands have two basic setups:

* Capital defence: Is just as the name suggests a setup where the Dutch
land unit is setup on Amsterdam.

* NEI defence: The Dutch land forces are setup on Batavia/ Palembang guarding against a future or current Japanese attack.

Netherlands has two extreme setups:

* Border defence: Is just as the name suggests a setup where the Dutch
land unit is set as blocking force against advance of land units leaving Amsterdam and Rotterdam empty for CW forces.

* Rotterdam defence: During bad weather is it might be possible for the Dutch land unit to setup on Rotterdam and forcing the attacker to wait to attack only from one hex or wait one impulse and the risking change in weather, loosing surprise effects and hence faced with the possibility of defensive shore bombardment/ground support etc.

Declaration of war
Given a CW declaration of war (with or without FR/US) and JP control of Netherlands OR a GE declaration of war with or without IT and CW control of Netherlands OR a JP declaration of war with or without GW/IT and CW control of Netherlands suggested reasoning for the AI could be as below.

Threats to guard against:
* Threat of paradrop on Amsterdam
* Threat of invasion on Amsterdam
* Threat of paradrop on Rotterdam
* Threat of invasion on Rotterdam
* Threat of enemy land units in Belgium

* Threat of having the land out of supply
* Threat of having the land overrun
* Threat of having the land unit disrupted
* Threat of a quick land advance to Amsterdam from the North east

Good hopes:
* Chance of intervention from controlling power

Threat of enemy land units in Belgium

IF any of the countries at war has

Has one more organized LandUnits AND
The unit is in Beligum AND
It can move into Netherlands

THEN

There is threat of enemy land units in Belgium

Threat of paradrop on Amsterdam:

IF the Weather is Storm or Blizzard the no risk of paradrop

IF any of the countries at war has a:

Organized ATR AND
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
the ATR has range to Amsterdam or can be put in range of it AND
there is a organized PARA AND
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
the PARA has range to ATR or can be put in range of it AND
the PARA and the ATR belongs to countries that can cooperate AND
the chance of a successful paradrop is > 20 %

THEN

There is threat of paradrop on Amsterdam

Threat of paradrop on Rotterdam:
Same as Threat of a paradrop on Amsterdam, but range to Rotterdam

Threat of invasion on Amsterdam

IF the Weather is not Fine or Rain then there is no risk of invasion

IF any of the countries at war has a:

Organized TRS/AMPH/SCS AND one of A or B

A)
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
it has range to North Sea AND
there is a organized LandUnit AND
the LandUnit it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
the LandUnit and the transporting unit can cooperate AND
the transporting unit can transport the LandUnit AND
the LandUnit can invade from the transporting unit AND
the LandUnit is on a costal hex North Sea OR stack with the transporting unit
the chance of a successful invasion is > 20 %

B)
It’s in the North Sea the AND
there is a organized LandUnit stack with the transporting unit AND
the LandUnit can invade from the transporting unit
the chance of a successful invasion is > 20 %

THEN

There is threat of invasion on Amsterdam

Threat of invasion on Rotterdam:
Same as Threat of an invasion on Amsterdam

Threat of having the land unit disrupted

IF the Weather is Storm or Blizzard there is no risk of having the land unit flipped

IF any of the countries at war has A or B

A)
A organized air unit AND
the unit has tactical factors AND
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
it has range to the hex where the land unit is planed to be placed AND
the chance of a successful ground strike is > 30 %
B)
A organized ART unit AND
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
it has adjacent to the hex where the land unit is planed to be placed AND
the chance of a successful ground strike is > 30 %

THEN

There is risk of having the land unit disrupted

Threat of having the land unit overrun

IF the defending unit is in a city hex there is no risk of having the land unit overrun

IF the defending unit is in a none clear or desert hex there is no risk of having the land
unit overrun

IF any of the countries at war has A,B,C or D

A)
Has a organized LandUnit AND
It can move adjacent to the defenders hex AND
It’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
The type of the LandUnit is ARM, MECH or HQ-A AND
There is threat of having the land unit disrupted AND
Threat of having the land out of supply AND
The attacking odds for the out of supply and flipped unit are at least 7:1 at the moment of overrun AND
The attacking unit does not attack across a fort hexside

B)
Has a organized LandUnit AND
It can move adjacent to the defenders hex AND
It’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
The type of the LandUnit is ARM, MECH or HQ-A AND
The attacking odds for the unit are at least 7:1 at the moment of overrun AND
The attacking unit does not attack across a fort hexside

C)
Has a organized, single stack of LandUnit AND
It can move adjacent to the defenders hex AND
The stack in supply or can be put in supply AND
At least one of the LandUnit’s in the stack is of the type ARM, MECH or HQ-A AND
There is threat of having the land unit disrupted AND
Threat of having the land out of supply AND
The attacking odds for the out of supply and flipped unit are at least 7:1 at the moment of overrun AND
The attacking unit does not attack across a fort hexside

D)
Has a organized, single stack of LandUnit AND
It can move adjacent to the defenders hex AND
The stack in supply or can be put in supply AND
At least one of the LandUnit’s in the stack is of the type ARM, MECH or HQ-A AND
The attacking odds for the unit are at least 7:1 at the moment of overrun AND
The attacking unit does not attack across a fort hexside


THEN

There is risk of having the land unit overrun

Threat of having the unit out of supply

IF any of the countries at war has

Has one more organized LandUnits AND
After movement are all supply paths for the defending unit to a primary supply source, even trough a secondary one blocked.

THEN

There is risk of having the unit out of supply

Threat of a quick land advance to Amsterdam from the North east

IF any of the countries at war has

A organized LandUnit AND
It’s in Germany AND
It’s fast moving (reach the Amsterdam in one impulses) AND

THEN

Threat of a quick land advance to Amsterdam from the North east


Chance of intervention in Netherlands from controlling power

IF Controlling major power has a unit in any of Belgium/Germany AND
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
the unit can cooperate with Netherlands AND
the unit can move into Netherlands

ELSE IF Controlling major power can railmove a unit into Netherlands AND
the unit can cooperate with Netherlands AND

ELSE IF Controlling major power can navaltransport/airtransport a unit into Netherlands AND
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
the unit can cooperate with Netherlands AND
the transporting unit can enter Netherlands or the unit can debark into Netherlands

THEN

There is a chance of intervention in Netherlands from controlling power

When a setup is used

* The Border defence
Is consider to be used when A, B, C, D, E AND F

A) No Threat of paradrop on Rotterdam
B) No Threat of invasion on Rotterdam
C) No Threat of having the land unit overrun
D) War with GE/IT
E) Chance of intervention from controlling power
F) No Threat of enemy land units in Belgium


* NEI defence
Is consider to be used when, A or B

A) No Chance of intervention in Netherlands from controlling power AND
game turn not Sep/Oct 1939 AND not Mar/Apr 1940 AND not May/Jun 1940
B) War with JP

* The Capital defence
Is consider to be used when one of A or B OR When the AI wants
A) Threat of paradrop on Amsterdam
B) Threat of invasion on Amsterdam

--Extreme setup
* Rotterdam defence
Is consider to be used when all of A, B, C OR D, E and F

A) No Threat of a quick land advance to Amsterdam from the North east
B) War with GE/IT
C) No Threat of enemy land units in Belgium

D) No Threat of invasion on Amsterdam
E) No Threat of paradrop on Amsterdam
F) War with allies

Planes, Convoy points and Naval unit setup


During a JP declaration of war:

Surabaya Sub
Batavia 1 Naval units
Ambon 1 Naval units
Hollandia 1 Naval units

Rotterdam: 10 CP, TRS

1941
Add FTR2 Telok Betong
Remove 1 Naval unit Ambon

1942
Add LND3 Telok Betong
Add FTR2 South of Palembang
Add Rotterdam: 2 Naval units


During a GE/IT declaration of war:


* The Capital defence
Rotterdam: Sub, 3 Naval units,2 CP
TRS Battavia
Willemstad 8 CP

* Border defence
Rotterdam: Sub, 1 Naval unit,2 CP
Amsterdam 2 Naval units
TRS Battavia
Willemstad 8 CP

* Rotterdam defence
Rotterdam 1 Naval unit,2 CP
Amsterdam Sub, 2 Naval units
TRS Battavia
Willemstad 8 CP

1941
Add FTR2 Telok Betong
Move 2 CP from Willemstad to Rotterdam

1942
Add LND3 Telok Betong
Add FTR2 South of Palembang
Add 1 Naval units Rotterdam
Add 1 Naval units Amsterdam


During a CW/FR/US declaration of war and JP control:

Surabaya Sub, 4 CP
Batavia 1 TRS, 2 CP
Amsterdam 4 CP,
Rotterdam 3 Naval units

1941
FTR2 Telok Betong
Move 2 CP from Batavia to Rotterdam

1942
Add LND3 Telok Betong
Add FTR2 South of Palembang
Add 2 Naval units Rotterdam

* Capital Defence

* NEI Defence A

NEI Defence B

*NEI Defence C

* Border Defence

* Rotterdam Defence

ORIGINAL: peskpesk

* Border Defence

This is real dangerous since the Germans have good tactical air to disorganize the non-elite Dutch unit. Simple flanking moves will let them put it out of supply and then overrunning the OOS, disorganized unit can be done by a single armor unit. The result is that Germany can walk into both Amsterdam and Rotterdam.

ORIGINAL: peskpesk

*NEI Defence C

What about setting up a unit in Borneo?

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

ORIGINAL: peskpesk

* Border Defence

This is real dangerous since the Germans have good tactical air to disorganize the non-elite Dutch unit. Simple flanking moves will let them put it out of supply and then overrunning the OOS, disorganized unit can be done by a single armor unit. The result is that Germany can walk into both Amsterdam and Rotterdam.

It depends on whether supply can be traced across the Zuiderzee to the North Sea through CW CP in this version of WIF? If supply is guaranteed then overrun will be very difficult at all but breakthrough moevement to Amsterdam will be more or less automatic.

Is supply can not be traced across the Zuiderzee then I think this setup should only be a viable choice in whether different than clear?

ORIGINAL: wfzimmerman

ORIGINAL: peskpesk

*NEI Defence C

What about setting up a unit in Borneo?

Or putting both units into Batavia - if that falls NEI falls [;)]

ORIGINAL: hjaco

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

ORIGINAL: peskpesk

* Border Defence

This is real dangerous since the Germans have good tactical air to disorganize the non-elite Dutch unit. Simple flanking moves will let them put it out of supply and then overrunning the OOS, disorganized unit can be done by a single armor unit. The result is that Germany can walk into both Amsterdam and Rotterdam.

It depends on whether supply can be traced across the Zuiderzee to the North Sea through CW CP in this version of WIF? If supply is guaranteed then overrun will be very difficult at all but breakthrough moevement to Amsterdam will be more or less automatic.

Is supply can not be traced across the Zuiderzee then I think this setup should only be a viable choice in whether different than clear?

Your right, weather is a consideration I hadn't thought about. The Zuider Zee is a lake, so unless it is frozen, supply can not be traced across it. The North Sea does not connect to the Zuider Zee, despite the 'canal' hexside (named Afsluitdijk?).

ORIGINAL: peskpesk

* Capital Defence

There is a variant to this, if the weather is Rain, and the No ZoC optional is not in play, and the Germans have no possibility of Invasion of the Dutch coast, and no possibility of paradrop on Amsterdam, and Belgium is still neutral and was not DoWed too.
This is to setup the 4-3 INF on the resource.
The ZoC of the Dutch unit block any German advance, and the rain prevent any breaktrough, as well as giving a -2 penalty (2d10 CRT) and a lesser chance of ground strike.
With this setup, none of Amsterdam or Rotterdam can be German at the end of the 1st Impulse, and the CW can consider reinforcing with 4 units and prevent the Dutch surrender, and maybe gain an US Entry for supporting a minor country.

This seems like a lot of conditions, but for a German attacking soon (S/O 39 or N/D 39), this have a lot of chances to happen).

ORIGINAL: hjaco
It depends on whether supply can be traced across the Zuiderzee to the North Sea through CW CP in this version of WIF? If supply is guaranteed then overrun will be very difficult at all but breakthrough moevement to Amsterdam will be more or less automatic.

Is supply can not be traced across the Zuiderzee then I think this setup should only be a viable choice in whether different than clear?

The Zuider Zee is a lake, and CP in the North Sea are irrelevant to the supply of the hex where there is the resource. This hex is not coastal, and can't be in supply from the sea.

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
This is real dangerous since the Germans have good tactical air to disorganize the non-elite Dutch unit. Simple flanking moves will let them put it out of supply and then overrunning the OOS, disorganized unit can be done by a single armor unit. The result is that Germany can walk into both Amsterdam and Rotterdam.

Overruning this Dutch units under rain needs a German ARM unit with 6 movement points (2 MP for the first hex, and 4 MP for the overrunned hex) adjacent to the Dutch Border. Just add this to my list of conditions for this setup to be used.

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
The North Sea does not connect to the Zuider Zee, despite the 'canal' hexside (named Afsluitdijk?).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afsluitdijk.
It means : Closure Dike.

ORIGINAL: peskpesk

*NEI Defence C

This setup is particulary clever IMO, because a lot of Japanese players prefer to simply invade freely on the Oil fields of the NEI, securing the capital city later, to immediately have this oil to reorg just at the end of their onslaught all around invasion turn.
The Swamp and the city makes Palembang a particulary difficult spot to invade.

ORIGINAL: peskpesk
Netherlands have two basic setups:

* Capital defence: Is just as the name suggests a setup where the Dutch
land unit is setup on Amsterdam.

* NEI defence: The Dutch land forces are setup on Batavia/ Palembang guarding against a future or current Japanese attack.

I think that the Netherlands should never leave their home country as a freebie for the German, because it can very often cause disruption and air units usage to take it. Also, setting up a land unit outside the Netherlands means that one less naval unit can be setup outside the Netherlands,and Ducth Naval units come VERY handy for the CW player to help him all around.

Moreover, the NEI have already 2 units to defend their land with. The Batavia MIL and the NEI TERR.

So I'd never setup the 4-3 INF unit outside the Netherlands.

Well, I do not agree with all this :

Threat of paradrop on Amsterdam:

IF the Weather is Storm or Blizzard the no risk of paradrop

IF any of the countries at war has a:

Organized ATR AND
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
the ATR has range to Amsterdam or can be put in range of it AND

Can be put in range of Amsterdam ?
How ?
If an ATR is not in range from Amsterdam, it is out of range from Amsterdam, and can't be put in range from Amsterdam during this impulse. The Air Rebase Step is after the Paradrop Step, so there is no way the ATR can be put in range if it is not at the start of the Impulse (The only way would be Naval Transport, was this what you supposed) (which is right for the ATR, but wrong for the PARA, that CAN move to its ATR during the land movement step).

there is a organized PARA AND
it’s in supply or can be put in supply AND
the PARA has range to ATR or can be put in range of it AND
the PARA and the ATR belongs to countries that can cooperate AND
the chance of a successful paradrop is > 20 %

20% is a quite low chance to consider there is a paradrop threat, isn't it ?

THEN

There is threat of paradrop on Amsterdam

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: peskpesk
Netherlands have two basic setups:

* Capital defence: Is just as the name suggests a setup where the Dutch
land unit is setup on Amsterdam.

* NEI defence: The Dutch land forces are setup on Batavia/ Palembang guarding against a future or current Japanese attack.

I think that the Netherlands should never leave their home country as a freebie for the German, because it can very often cause disruption and air units usage to take it. Also, setting up a land unit outside the Netherlands means that one less naval unit can be setup outside the Netherlands,and Ducth Naval units come VERY handy for the CW player to help him all around.

Moreover, the NEI have already 2 units to defend their land with. The Batavia MIL and the NEI TERR.

So I'd never setup the 4-3 INF unit outside the Netherlands.

This is provided Belgium is still neutral I assume? After a French surrender there is no point in trying to defend the Netherlands to save 1 ship from being overrun....