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CO names
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:22 pm
by Hard Sarge
in case anyone has the full names of some of these guys and wants to help fill in some blanks, it would be of help to me (so I can keep working on the areas I am working on)
some of these are doubles and the names are done, some are just not run across them when I am working on names
looks like there are a few doubles in the list, most of these are from the old game, so, some may have bad letters, the LW most of them may have bad first names
4 G. F. W. Heycock
George F.W. Heycock
5 K. A. K. McEwan
6 W. W. Loxton
Wilfred W. Loxton
7 S. C. Widdows
Stan C. Widdows
11 D. A. Finlay
Dennis A. Finlay
14 M. N. Crossley
Mike N. Crossley
20 M. W. S. Robinson
Maurice W.S. Robinson
22 J. H. Hayworth
24 R. S. Mills
Randolph S. Mills
27 W. A. Richardson
28 J. A. G. Gordon
31 J. H. Little
33 H. J. Maguire
Harold J. MaGuire
43 H. Ecles
Henry Ecles
44 G. D. Garvin
George D. Garvin
59 E. H. Stevens
61 W. Churchill (LOL got to look, not sure if that is Winston or Walter
Walter M Churchill
67 M. Robinson
72 E. F. Ward
73 G. R. McGregor
Gordon R. McGregor
77 F. Beckh
85 R. von Rettburg
86 G. Seegert
89 E. Neumann
Eduard Neumann
90 W. Andres
Walter Andres
96 W. Loebel
97 K. Doench
98 J. Kollewe
99 W. Kinkelbein
101 C. Balcke
102 E. Behrendt
110 S. Jacob
111 H. Kuster
112 H. von Holleben
113 F. Bohm
114 G. Heinze
117 A. Huelshoff
118 K. H. Heyse
Karl-Heinrich Heyse
119 U. Mayer
120 K. W. Jung
121 A. Boehme
122 K. Boensch
123 W. Burmeister
124 H. Thiel
125 R. Franz
126 H. J. von Klaeden
127 B. Bank
128 H. K. Eichstedt
129 K. Barth
130 J. Wunderlich
131 W. K. Heuer
132 F. Koehler
133 S. Werdin
134 O. Rathmann
203 T. L. Leigh-Mallory (Trafford L. Leigh-Mallory)
204 R. E. Saul
304 Maier
310 Bohm
370 Winterer
373 Scholz
406 W. von Richthofen (Wolfram von Richthofen)
444 Busch
446 Loebel
448 Kellewe
450 Hentschel
451 Stahl
RE: CO names
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:24 pm
by davidjruss
Hard Sarge
May be :-
89 Eduard Neumann 1/JG 27
90 Werner Andres II /JG 27
118 Karl-Heinrich Heyse II./ NJG 1 also 1./NJG 2
Davidr
RE: CO names
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:56 pm
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: DavidR
Hard Sarge
May be :-
89 Eduard Neumann 1/JG 27
90 Werner Andres II /JG 27
(I have it as Walter Andres)
118 Karl-Heinrich Heyse II./ NJG 1 also 1./NJG 2
figures, I had them, just those are the blank doubles
thanks
Davidr
RE: CO names
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:21 pm
by jcjordan
All I can come up w/ for now -
4 George Francis Wheaton Heycock
11 Dennis A. Finlay
20 Maurice Wilbraham Sandford Robinson
33 Harold John Maguire (is this the one that served in SE Asia & became POW?)
43 Henry Ecles (commanded No263 at one time?)
44 George Desmond Garvin
203 should this be Trafford Leigh Mallory instead of T L Leigh-Mallory?
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:09 am
by jcjordan
Some more found in googling around -
6 Wilfred William Loxton
7 Stan C. Widdows
14 Mike Nicholson Crossley
24 Randolph Stuart Mills
28 J. A. G. Gordon (found a JAC Gordon of No151?)
61 W. Churchill (Walter M. cdr of No605?)
67 Maurice Wilbraham Sandford Robinson of No73?? (did find a M & M L that were S/L No616 & F/L 610)
73 Gordon Roy McGregor
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:59 am
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: jcjordan
All I can come up w/ for now -
4 George Francis Wheaton Heycock
11 Dennis A. Finlay
20 Maurice Wilbraham Sandford Robinson
33 Harold John Maguire (is this the one that served in SE Asia & became POW?)
43 Henry Ecles (commanded No263 at one time?)
44 George Desmond Garvin
203 should this be Trafford Leigh Mallory instead of T L Leigh-Mallory? (I find it as Trafford Leigh Leigh-Mallory ?)
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:01 am
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: jcjordan
Some more found in googling around -
6 Wilfred William Loxton
7 Stan C. Widdows
14 Mike Nicholson Crossley
24 Randolph Stuart Mills
28 J. A. G. Gordon (found a JAC Gordon of No151?)
61 W. Churchill (Walter M. cdr of No605?)(should be Walter)
67 Maurice Wilbraham Sandford Robinson of No73?? (did find a M & M L that were S/L No616 & F/L 610) (I got M.L. Robinson, need M)
73 Gordon Roy McGregor
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:04 am
by Hard Sarge
added/corrected
thanks
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:44 am
by von Shagmeister
5 K. A. K. McEwan - Kenneth Alexander Keswick McEwan
28 J. A. G. Gordon - is this John Arthur Gerald Gordon who was later Wg Ldr Debden Wg
31 J. H. Little - James Hayward Little
67 M. Robinson - Marcus (Maurice?) Wilbraham Sandiford Robinson C/O 616 Sqn, Michael Lister Robinson C/O 609 Sqn (probably Flt Cdr 601 Sqn as of mid Aug40)
77 F. Beckh - Beckh, Friedrich
85 R. von Rettburg - Rettberg, Ralph von
86 G. Seegert - Seegert, Joachim?
96 W. Loebel - Loebel, Walter
97 K. Doench - Doench, Fritz Gr.Kdr. I./KG 30
98 J. Kollewe - Kollewe, Gerhard Gr.Kdr. III./KG 30 (until 8/40?)
102 E. Behrendt - Behrendt, Franz Gr.Kdr. II./KG 77
112 H. von Holleben - Holleben, Heinz-Ludwig von
122 K. Boensch - is this Bönsch, Herbert St.Kap. 4./NJG 1
123 W. Burmeister - is this Burmeister, Walter 3.(F)/31
125 R. Franz - Franz, Rudolf Gr.Kdr. (F)/121
127 B. Bank - is this Bank, Werner Bildoffizier 1.(F)/120 KIA 8/7/40
129 K. Barth - is this Barth, Karl 3./Kü.Fl.Gr. 506
132 F. Koehler - is this Köhler, Fritz Gr.Kdr. (F)/122 from Feb41
133 S. Werdin - is this Werdin, Arnold 7.(F)/LG 2 KIA 18Aug40
134 O. Rathmann - is this Rathmann, Erich Gr.Kdr. III./KG 3
204 R. E. Saul - Richard Ernest Saul AOC 13 Grp during BoB
370 Winterer - possibly Winterer, Hans-Otto
451 Stahl - is this Stahl, Erich Kdre. KG 53
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:26 pm
by Hard Sarge
Thanks Shaggy
that is from the Leader lists, some are going to be doubles or dead ends, but thought I would post the ones I didn't have
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:20 pm
by Hard Sarge
thank Shaggy, and yes you nailed all of them
of course, some I already had, but since they are not leaders, I didn't add them to the leader file
(other then Robinson, I got M.W.S. and M.L., I need M)
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:44 pm
by jcjordan
Looks like M Robinson is Marcus. On Mallory guess it's confusing when you've got the same middle name as part of your last name & only gets murkier as time goes by.
RE: CO names
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:06 pm
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: jcjordan
Looks like M Robinson is Marcus. On Mallory guess it's confusing when you've got the same middle name as part of your last name & only gets murkier as time goes by.
oh roger that, I was confused too, but a I seen it that way a couple of times
you know, that may of been a "thing" back then, I remember reading a little bit ago, about how the English took to doing that - in there middle of there names, so he may of been born Mallory, and his mother's name was Leigh, so they used it as a middle name, then he or they decided to combine the names and he already had it as a middle name, so it stayed
of course, just guessing here
(think I was reading about some pilots and how HARD it was to track there history, as a couple of them, went with the double name, midway though the war, so people get confused as to who is who)