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Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:07 am
by rockmedic109
Do TBFs ever use torpedoes on Port Attack? I am getting tired of dropping 500lb ping-pong balls on anchored Battleships.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:56 am
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: rockmedic109
Do TBFs ever use torpedoes on Port Attack? I am getting tired of dropping 500lb ping-pong balls on anchored Battleships.
yes they do! It´s a die roll though. You can increase your chances by raising the detection level of ships in port. The more ships you spot the higher is the chance of using torps, at least that´s the rumor about it. Of course you have to make sure to be in torp range also, but I guess you are well aware of that.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:35 pm
by rockmedic109
Dice roll! Story of my life! They never seem to roll my way.
The DL should be very high. Daily F-5A flights over Kwajalein. Well within torp range. Oh well, I am used to failing dice rolls {I once rolled 4 sixes in Star Fleet Battles with overloaded Photons at range 2 for those that have played SFB}.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:07 pm
by Feinder
I sent a Fed Dreadnaut vs. a B-10 once.
And only once...

-F-
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:43 pm
by TheElf
ORIGINAL: Feinder
I sent a Fed Dreadnaut vs. a B-10 once.
And only once...
-F-
My mother hung me on a hook once...ONCE...
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:50 pm
by sventhebold
Ahh Yes SFB saved me many a night playing it while TDY at some forgotten place. So it was either drink or
play. We were throwing those dice hoping for the same sixes.
Funny when it came to crunch time I almost always missed.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:10 pm
by Nikademus
Go with the Lyran Dreadnought......Expanding Sphere Generators rock.
[:)]
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:00 pm
by tocaff
I'd love to see the Kates putting fish in the water on 12/7, just once.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:41 pm
by Menser
500lb bomb? Thats funny ....I thought the Kates that didn't launch torps were dropping 800kg bombs (modified BB shells) at Pearl .....1760 lb bombs ...... more than enough penitration for the deck armor at 10,000 feet.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:06 am
by witpqs
Kates on port attack are equipped with plasma-R torps.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:52 am
by rockmedic109
Enveloping -Rs. At least I don't think the code sees a difference in all torps hitting one side versus half on one side and half hitting the opposite side.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:29 am
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: Menser
500lb bomb? Thats funny ....I thought the Kates that didn't launch torps were dropping 800kg bombs (modified BB shells) at Pearl .....1760 lb bombs ...... more than enough penitration for the deck armor at 10,000 feet.
you are right, they do drop 800kg AP bombs, but rockmedic talks about US TBFs on port attack, they drop 500lb ! bombs on port attack if they don´t drop torps.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:48 am
by rockmedic109
ORIGINAL: castor troy
ORIGINAL: Menser
500lb bomb? Thats funny ....I thought the Kates that didn't launch torps were dropping 800kg bombs (modified BB shells) at Pearl .....1760 lb bombs ...... more than enough penitration for the deck armor at 10,000 feet.
you are right, they do drop 800kg AP bombs, but rockmedic talks about US TBFs on port attack, they drop 500lb ! bombs on port attack if they don´t drop torps.
Thanks Castor.
But if the target is a battleship {or even a CA}, those 500lb bombs might just as well be ping-pong balls or even cotton balls! Disgruntling to see 20+ hits on a battleship or cruiser and know that none of them penetrated. I can only hope that enough fires were created to be a problem.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:15 pm
by Ambassador
A bomb hit is a bomb hit, even if it doesn't penetrate. If those 20 500-er caused 10 sys dmg without endangering the ship (like a pair of torpedoes would have), this still is a worthy effect : the ship will need more repair time in a yard or other harbour. If a ship is put out of commission for an extra month, it's as good as if it was sunk, during that month. This means a little fewer threats at sea. And until it falls back for repairs, it'll be a little less efficient & slower, and noticeably more visible ; and don't forget some weapon mounts could have been destroyed too.
Also, slower + more visible + less AA + extra sys dmg = much more vulnerable to naval attack if your enemy decides to leave the harbour. If you have the means to stay in the area long enough, that is.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:33 pm
by rockmedic109
And if the hit during a port attack that causes significant damage to the port, the port cannot repair it till the port itself is repaired {I think}. Still a lot of worktrying to take the ship out with 500lbers.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:44 pm
by NormS3
ORIGINAL: TheElf
ORIGINAL: Feinder
I sent a Fed Dreadnaut vs. a B-10 once.
And only once...
-F-
My mother hung me on a hook once...ONCE...
You shouldn't kick me in the balls, Mrs. Kelly. My sister kicked me in the balls once . . .
Sorry could not help myself. I thought that my respect for you and all your work couldn't get higher, now you have quoted one of most favorite movies, fargin icehole!
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:47 pm
by Uamaga
ORIGINAL: rockmedic109
And if the hit during a port attack that causes significant damage to the port, the port cannot repair it till the port itself is repaired {I think}. Still a lot of worktrying to take the ship out with 500lbers.
Not quite. For repair purpose port size is scaled down by its damage. In Port size of 10 damaged in 50% ships will repair as if they were in Port size 5. Then any modifiers (4ARs or 2 AD/AS/AGPs or Naval HQ) can raise effective port level by (up to) 4.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:51 pm
by John Lansford
I killed two Fed DN's with a B-10 in one game. My friend charged me with both DN's side by side, I sideslipped and hit one in a flank shield with overloaded disruptors and phasers, with a follow up of drones. The other one missed with its overloaded photons (he always used one dice roll for all of them, all hit or all miss), and the next turn I tore that one up too.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:46 pm
by rockmedic109
My favorite battles in SFB were taking on a Klingon F5 with a Fed Police Cruiser. Did it twice. Won both. Both were over 15 turns with a lot of maneuvering. Both my opponets star castled and gave up the initiative.
RE: Do TBFs ever use torpedoes...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:47 pm
by witpqs
So was that a B-10 in Star Trek: Nemesis?
BTW, what is "star castled"?