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Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:12 pm
by JamesM
It seems that Microsoft is fast tracking the next version of windows. They are already showing beats to software developers.

I am glad that i never brought this OS, I will just wait for the next version of windows.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:16 pm
by Terminus
Same here. Vista will shortly be consigned to the scrapheap of history, where it so richly belongs.

It can meet up with Windows ME and have a "so you failed too?" party...[:D]

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:07 pm
by wworld7
My new system with Vista has been fine. Like many people I have run into some problems but nothing I haven't been able to figure out.

As for the next version of Windows?

I could be dead by 2010/2011!

Anyway, anyone expecting it in 2009 better be ready to be disappointed.

Long live DOS!!!

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:18 pm
by JudgeDredd
Vista is a piece of crap. Without actually doing anything on my system, it grabs no less than 900MB (or there abouts) of my 2GB.

Unfortunately some people (myself included) had no option when I bought my laptop and it's infected with it. Thx Microsoft for making my laptop as useful as a Betamax video player!

Once bitten....

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:50 pm
by NefariousKoel
Vista SP1 has been working just fine for me.  Other than downloading a small dll file for old games I've installed, turning superfetch and UAC off, I've not been bothered much.

Actually, the Nvidia drivers for Vista are the only ones that let me keep the original game's aspect ratio instead of stretching them on my widescreen.  The XP drivers do not.  Not to mention I actually resized the Vista partition and made a new one for that XP inside Vista which was a damn nice addition.  It's definitely more stable, too.

I have XP installed on a separate partition just in case, but I've not used it in the past year.  I'll probably wipe that partition and put Ubuntu on it before long.

If you expect some new, rushed, MS operating system to be the cat's meow then prepare to be disappointed.  If the new one shows up in less than 3 years, then plan on another ME fiasco with it as that one was quite rushed too.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:53 pm
by Gem35
Vista has been out long enough now to have most if not all the bugs ironed out.
If you can't get it working properly either your PC is not stable or you are doing something wrong.
You also should not run it without at least 4 GB of RAM unless you are using basic or something.
Stop with the "it sux" and "it's crap" already.[:-]

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:56 pm
by uncc
ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

Vista is a piece of crap. Without actually doing anything on my system, it grabs no less than 900MB (or there abouts) of my 2GB.

Unfortunately some people (myself included) had no option when I bought my laptop and it's infected with it. Thx Microsoft for making my laptop as useful as a Betamax video player!

Once bitten....



what makes you think "Windows 7" will grab less memory? [:)] Seems each new OS from MS requires even more memory than its predecessor to function. Better go buy some more memory!


RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:45 pm
by wworld7
In doing some checking before purchased my system it looked like getting 4 GIGs was better than 2. At least for my future needs. I agree Windows 7 (or what ever the final name is) will likely use more of it.

My first business PC had 1 meg. And I was lucky as some co-workers had to make do with 512K...LOL. Ah life in the 80's...

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:35 pm
by SlickWilhelm
Hate to tell you guys, but Windows 7 is based on Vista. To be honest, Vista sp1 has given me no headaches, but it does require 4GB of RAM to work at the same performance level that XP does with 2GB. 

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:37 pm
by Gem35
ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm

Hate to tell you guys, but Windows 7 is based on Vista. To be honest, Vista sp1 has given me no headaches, but it does require 4GB of RAM to work at the same performance level that XP does with 2GB. 
I used to be a Vista basher but that was early and based on ignorance mostly.
Vista is a sound OS, just do your homework and keep an open mind.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:40 pm
by Challerain
Have to agree, no issues with Vista here at all.

And if I remember correctly, didn't it take until XP SP2 until XP became a stable OS?

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:41 pm
by Nikademus
I just got Vista on my newest machine. My opinion of it has softened a bit too now that i've turned off all the hand-holding features that cause a ceaseless number of annoying popup messages to appear whenever you do something. Now it feels alot like XP.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:50 pm
by sabre1
I have had no issues with Vista.  I use the 64 bit, with 8 GB of ram.  I actually have grown to like the way it works and looks.
 
Now MS Word 2007, that's a whole different issue..., and to be truthful, I'm just lazy when it comes to learning new programs.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:57 pm
by Greybriar
Sadly, the maximum amount of RAM my motherboard will support is 2GB. But it doesn't seem to cause any problems running games under Vista.

All in all, I am much more comfortable running Vista (I have Home Premium) than I was when I purchased this PC in August of 2007. To tell you the truth, I think I have less trouble running games under Vista than I did under XP.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:02 am
by NefariousKoel
ORIGINAL: Greybriar

To tell you the truth, I think I have less trouble running games under Vista than I did under XP.


Yep, when some shiny new game with a crash bug decides to CTD or black screen in Vista, it recovers quite well and quickly too, as opposed to XP. Though it's not invincible, I've noticed an improvement there.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:23 am
by Gem35
ORIGINAL: Greybriar

Sadly, the maximum amount of RAM my motherboard will support is 2GB. But it doesn't seem to cause any problems running games under Vista.

All in all, I am much more comfortable running Vista (I have Home Premium) than I was when I purchased this PC in August of 2007. To tell you the truth, I think I have less trouble running games under Vista than I did under XP.
One thing you can do to try and help your PC run a little better is disable that fancy desktop.
It will eat about 800-900MB of your RAM.
If as you say you are enjoying Vista then by all means, if it isn't broke disregard my tip.
If it isnt broke don't fix it.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:59 am
by Greybriar
ORIGINAL: Gem35

One thing you can do to try and help your PC run a little better is disable that fancy desktop.

I *think* I already did. I know I set the view to "Classic" in the Control Panel. It's been over a year, and I don't recall just what I have done since I purchased this computer.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:37 am
by Prince of Eckmühl
Vista is the world's first environmentally unsound OS. It's a power hog, requiring so much system memory and a GPU running the whole time that you're in Windows. It's also a total dog without at least a dual-core CPU. Phooey!

PoE (aka ivanmoe)

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:43 am
by jwilkerson
Yup the Vista memory requirements are the key issue for corporations. My company has about 4500 laptop/desktops, but average memory is between 256M and 512M so contemplating a "Vista Rollout" is pretty much impossible. It would cost millions for memory upgrades and/or new machines, and in this economy we can't even consider it. So we are definitely in the "waiting for the next version" group.


RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:48 am
by Twotribes
ORIGINAL: Gem35

Vista has been out long enough now to have most if not all the bugs ironed out.
If you can't get it working properly either your PC is not stable or you are doing something wrong.
You also should not run it without at least 4 GB of RAM unless you are using basic or something.
Stop with the "it sux" and "it's crap" already.[:-]

4 GIG? That is insane.