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How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:02 pm
by DCWhitworth
Can someone explain how reparations work in the game ? The victory conditions imply the payment is a one off, but this does not seem to be the case. I'm aware they don't seem to be taken in the first economic phase following a surrender (why ?) but when are they taken and how are they spread ?
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:19 pm
by ndrose
I believe that in one of the patches it was changed from a one-time payment to payment spread over 4(?) econ phases. Not sure about when it starts.
Nathan
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:14 am
by AresMars
Huh?
When did that happen? Why?
I dont rememeber seeing that in any patch notes?
Can anyone confirned these details....?
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:14 am
by DCWhitworth
ORIGINAL: AresMars
Huh?
When did that happen? Why?
I dont rememeber seeing that in any patch notes?
Can anyone confirned these details....?
Yeah I don't remember this either. All I know is that it doesn't seem to work as the manual say it does. This needs clarifying badly.
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:57 am
by MarshallEllis
We had to change this because at first we were not giving the whole amount for the right amount of time. We had to blend this with the loan code so it is typically spread amongst the next 4 eco phases. Is this what you're asking about?
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:08 am
by DCWhitworth
Thanks Marshall, that explains it. Did I miss an update in the Readme files ? I couldn't find one.
Also I've raised an issue on Mantis (437) that there is no way to determine where payments coming in are from or where reparations are going to.
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:21 pm
by MarshallEllis
David:
Yea, I'm not sure how (Or if) I will be able to do this since all of the payments are consolidated into one payment account with no "FROM" info today.
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:38 pm
by DCWhitworth
Well it's not a game stopper by any means but it would help. I've been in a position in a game as Turkey where I think GB and France might be giving me money and it's a little awkward to have to ask
Also I've been in games where players have said "What's this thing 'debt' ?" is that still reparations ? Given that there was no explanation of how reparations worked it was confusing.
Am I right in saying reparations skip an economic phase. So none are repaid in the economic phase directly following a surrender ?
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:14 am
by MarshallEllis
David:
Actually, I don't think so??? Are you seeing differently?
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:25 am
by DCWhitworth
ORIGINAL: Marshall Ellis
David:
Actually, I don't think so??? Are you seeing differently?
Never noticed personally, just something I vaguely recall from the forums.
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:02 pm
by ndrose
It could be the case that a country doesn't actually have the money to pay its debt--especially if it's still at war with someone else and the capital gets occupied. In that case, I believe there is a PP penalty for bankruptcy, but I'm not sure what happens to the debt, whether it's written off, or just pushed back to later econ phases.
Nathan
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:04 pm
by DCWhitworth
ORIGINAL: Marshall Ellis
David:
Actually, I don't think so??? Are you seeing differently?
Run a few tests and it seem to operate as described. Payment is split over the next four economic phases. Thanks for the clarification Marshall.
RE: How do Reparations work ?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:23 pm
by MarshallEllis
Good to hear!
BTW: I would like to add more detailed info to this sometime in the future ao I am not totally dismissing that possiblity.