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Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:57 pm
by wild_Willie2
Hi guy's.
A few years ago I saw 1 or 2 episodes on the BBC of a game show about digitally reenacting historic battles by laymen.
It was called Time Commanders.
Time Commanders is a series of programmes made by Lion TV for BBC Two that ran for two seasons from 2003 to 2005. The programmes, originally hosted by Eddie Mair and more recently by Richard Hammond, features an edited version of the game engine behind the real-time strategy game Rome: Total War to recreate famous battles of the ancient world. The battles are replayed by 4-player teams from diverse backgrounds. The teams are unfamiliar with computer games, to make sure their gaming skills do not influence their success. After a brief introduction of the battle, including an overview of military units, terrain and available forces, the players have to develop a strategy and then deploy their forces. Two of the players are selected as generals, who will direct the battle and have access to a strategic map. The other two players are designated lieutenants in the first series, and captains in the second. The units are indirectly controlled by the lieutenants, who issue commands to program assistants, who in turn use the game interface to control the units. Troop deployment and battle follows, although in the second series, there is a small skirmish conducted as a separate event, to acquaint the players with the game mechanics and their units. In the second series the team also get strategic pauses where they can refine their strategies.
During each game, a pair of military specialists analyse the performance of the players and explain how the real historical battle unfolded. One of these observers is often Dr. Aryeh Nusbacher and others have included Mike Loades (in the earliest episodes), Saul David, Mark Urban or Dr. Adrian Goldsworthy, the series' historical advisor.
I just went looking for that show and found it on the
history labs website for public download.
I also found some episode
from season 2 on Youtube....
I hope you will enjoy this show as much as I will......
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:01 pm
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
I hope you will enjoy this show as much as I will......
I think I already have enjoyed it as much as I ever will.
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:57 pm
by boba
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
Hi guy's.
A few years ago I saw 1 or 2 episodes on the BBC of a game show about digitally reenacting historic battles by laymen.
It was called Time Commanders.
I saw one episode where it was simulated battle between Alexander te Great and Hannibal. It was really great!
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:15 pm
by wild_Willie2
ORIGINAL: boba
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
Hi guy's.
A few years ago I saw 1 or 2 episodes on the BBC of a game show about digitally reenacting historic battles by laymen.
It was called Time Commanders.
I saw one episode where it was simulated battle between Alexander te Great and Hannibal. It was really great!
Alexander and Hanibal lived about 200 years apart, so it most likely wasn't a re-enactment of an historic battle [;)]....
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:55 pm
by boba
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
Alexander and Hanibal lived about 200 years apart, so it most likely wasn't a re-enactment of an historic battle [;)]....
Of course [;)] It was "What if" scenario, trying to gove answer who was a better general (or rather had better troops). Hannibal won utterly [:D]
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:15 pm
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
ORIGINAL: boba
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
Hi guy's.
A few years ago I saw 1 or 2 episodes on the BBC of a game show about digitally reenacting historic battles by laymen.
It was called Time Commanders.
I saw one episode where it was simulated battle between Alexander te Great and Hannibal. It was really great!
Alexander and Hanibal lived about 200 years apart, so it most likely wasn't a re-enactment of an historic battle [;)]....
Maybe Hannibal 's elephants were trying to dig up Alexanders grave?
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:27 pm
by AW1Steve
Maybe I'm sexists , but from now on when I see the good doctor on the history channel , I'll have a real hard time not laughing as he is now "Lynette". [X(]
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:35 pm
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: m10bob
Maybe Hannibal 's elephants were trying to dig up Alexanders grave?
Ha! Alexander was submerged in the Euphrates. I'd love to see those ellyfinks with shovels going down in scuba gear.
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:40 pm
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
reenacting historic battles by laymen.
Shoot, ain't interested. Been doin' this for better part of 50 years myself. Pretty good at it, too.
And I'm a layman, too. Just ask my girlfriend Esmeralda...
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:53 pm
by Onime No Kyo
Hmmm.....methinks I know what Pasternakski looks like.....
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:35 am
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo
Hmmm.....methinks I know what Pasternakski looks like.....
Bah! I'm WAY better lookin' than that...
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:44 am
by Mynok
It's Igornaski!! [:D]
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:52 am
by Apollo11
Hi all,
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2
Hi guy's.
A few years ago I saw 1 or 2 episodes on the BBC of a game show about digitally reenacting historic battles by laymen.
It was called Time Commanders.
Time Commanders is a series of programmes made by Lion TV for BBC Two that ran for two seasons from 2003 to 2005. The programmes, originally hosted by Eddie Mair and more recently by Richard Hammond, features an edited version of the game engine behind the real-time strategy game Rome: Total War to recreate famous battles of the ancient world. The battles are replayed by 4-player teams from diverse backgrounds. The teams are unfamiliar with computer games, to make sure their gaming skills do not influence their success. After a brief introduction of the battle, including an overview of military units, terrain and available forces, the players have to develop a strategy and then deploy their forces. Two of the players are selected as generals, who will direct the battle and have access to a strategic map. The other two players are designated lieutenants in the first series, and captains in the second. The units are indirectly controlled by the lieutenants, who issue commands to program assistants, who in turn use the game interface to control the units. Troop deployment and battle follows, although in the second series, there is a small skirmish conducted as a separate event, to acquaint the players with the game mechanics and their units. In the second series the team also get strategic pauses where they can refine their strategies.
During each game, a pair of military specialists analyse the performance of the players and explain how the real historical battle unfolded. One of these observers is often Dr. Aryeh Nusbacher and others have included Mike Loades (in the earliest episodes), Saul David, Mark Urban or Dr. Adrian Goldsworthy, the series' historical advisor.
I just went looking for that show and found it on the
history labs website for public download.
I also found some episode
from season 2 on Youtube....
I hope you will enjoy this show as much as I will......
Very nice - thanks!!! [:)]
Leo "Apollo11"
P.S.
I do own all "Total War" titles... [:D]
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:26 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: pasternakski
ORIGINAL: m10bob
Maybe Hannibal 's elephants were trying to dig up Alexanders grave?
Ha! Alexander was submerged in the Euphrates. I'd love to see those ellyfinks with shovels going down in scuba gear.
It could happen!
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:37 am
by Sauvequipeut
The Alexander/Hannibal match-up was, I think, a different series in which famous military dudes pitted their heroes against each other.
IIRC Peter de la Billiere was Alexander and Norman Schwarzkopf was Hannibal. PdlB won after NS let his cavalry stray out of command range and thus unable to counter the decisive attack.
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:41 am
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: Mynok
It's Igornaski!! [:D]
Hah! Shows how much you know, laser brain. That's a pic of Charlie Laughton as my boy Quasi, otherwise known as the Man Who Had a Hunch.
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:42 am
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: m10bob
ORIGINAL: pasternakski
ORIGINAL: m10bob
Maybe Hannibal 's elephants were trying to dig up Alexanders grave?
Ha! Alexander was submerged in the Euphrates. I'd love to see those ellyfinks with shovels going down in scuba gear.
It could happen!
So, where's the shovels, then, smartypants?
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:45 am
by Japan
Yep, its defenetly interesting, I have the whole series... [:D]
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:19 am
by Apollo11
Hi all,
ORIGINAL: pasternakski
Bah! I'm WAY better lookin' than that...
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! [X(]
[:D]
Leo "Apollo11"
RE: Great show for you history buffs....
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:07 am
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: m10bob
ORIGINAL: pasternakski
ORIGINAL: m10bob
Maybe Hannibal 's elephants were trying to dig up Alexanders grave?
Ha! Alexander was submerged in the Euphrates. I'd love to see those ellyfinks with shovels going down in scuba gear.
It could happen!
Elephant archeologist searching for Alexander's grave:
