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Ships from events

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:13 am
by doomtrader
I've written some events for 1939 scenario.
Some of them are about ships.

All below were laid down before the war and almost all of them were commisioned during the war.

Alabama
Anson
Aquila
Atlantis
Bermuda
Bismarck
Blucher
Ceylon
Cleveland
Duke of York
Fiji
Formidable
Gambia
Graf Zeppelin
Hornet
Howe
Illustrious
Implacable
Indiana
Indomitable
Iowa
Jamaica
Kenya
King George V
Komet
Kormoran
Littorio
Massachusetts
Mauritius
Maxim Gorky
Michel
Molotov
New Jersey
Nigeria
North Carolina
Orion
Pinguin
Prince of Wales
Prinz Eugen
Richelieu
Roma
Seydlitz
South Dakota
Stier
Thor
Tripitz
Trinidad
Victorious
Vittorio Veneto
Voroshilov
Washington
Wasp
Widder
U-54
U-102


I know that some of the German Raiders might be a little bit controversial and putting equal sign between them and Crown Colony class might be conceded as missunderstanding but I belive that for the playability purposes it's ok.

RE: Ships from events

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:23 pm
by Michael the Pole
I think that this is an interesting new type of event and will add quite a bit to the game. Is it your intention to give the owning player an event encompassing a choice, as suggested by Mike Parker, of paying PP and completing the vessel, or not completing and using the PP for some other purpose?
If so, we need to add the German aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin. The German player should be given the choice to continue construction in January, 1940 and the ship should appear a month or two after Bismark, say in December 1940.
Graf Zeppelin was laid down in December 1936 and launched on December 8, 1938. A decision was made at a naval conference in January, 1940 to scrap FlugzeugtrƤger B, the Grafs sister ship (the Kriegsmarine never gave names to ships until they were launched) which had been laid down in 1938 but never launched. However, it was decided that work on the Graf Zeppelin was to continue, with the goal of having her ready for commisioning in late 1940, along with Bismark. Hitler did not choose to become personaly involved in her construction and continued infighting between Reichsmarschall Goring and Grosadmiral Raeder over her air compliment (30 Me-109Ts and 13 Ju-87Cs) caused repeated delays in her completion. After Raeder's replacement by Admiral Donitz she was never completed, and was eventually confiscated by the Soviet Union. (Interestingly, the Soviets apparently loaded her with munitions to simulate a combat compliment and then subjected her to repeated air attack, in an attempt to learn what it would take to sink American carriers. After surviving 24 bomb hits, she had to be scuttled with 2 torpedos. She was recently discovered by the Polish Navy in 250 feet of water north of Wladyslawowo.)
Like Bismark, Graf Zeppelin was designed primarily as a commerce raider and in fact was in some ways similar to the Soviet heavy aircraft carrying cruiser Kiev class, although, unlike the Kievs she was a full deck carrier. As such, the Graf was armed with 16 Sk.15cm guns (roughly equivelant to a 6 inch gun in Anglo/American useage.) In comparison, an American Brooklyn class light cruiser mounted 15 6 inch guns, Yorktown class carriers carried 8 6.5 inchers, and the English Illustrious class carriers mounted 16 QF 4.5 inch multi-purposes guns.
Sorry about running off at the mouth (keyboard) again, brothers. You know how I get.

edit

You know, after spending an hour writing this garbage, I just noticed that Doomtrader has the Graf on his list and I just missed it somehow. DUHH!
We need to put a delete button on these posts.

RE: Ships from events

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:56 pm
by doomtrader
Something like Mike suggested.
Pay 1/3 of the price or receive 1/3 of the price.
Simple and easy.
 
All ships enters with a historical commissioning date (for those unfinished I tried to estimate).

RE: Ships from events

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:18 pm
by Michael the Pole
ORIGINAL: doomtrader

Something like Mike suggested.
Pay 1/3 of the price or receive 1/3 of the price.
Simple and easy.

All ships enters with a historical commissioning date (for those unfinished I tried to estimate).


Sounds outstanding![&o]

RE: Ships from events

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:58 pm
by Severian
Graf can't be missed ;) I've checked the list few days ago ;)

RE: Ships from events

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:08 pm
by Michael the Pole
ORIGINAL: doomtrader

I've written some events for 1939 scenario.
Some of them are about ships.

All below were laid down before the war and almost all of them were commisioned during the war.
...
U-54
U-102

I know that some of the German Raiders might be a little bit controversial and putting equal sign between them and Crown Colony class might be conceded as missunderstanding but I belive that for the playability purposes it's ok.

I'm a little curious about the 2 unterseebooten. U-54 was a seemingly unremarkeable type VIIB, laid down on 13 Sep, 1938 and commissioned on 23 Sep, 1939. It was posted missing on 20 Feb, 1940 after apparently moving into an English mine field in the North Sea.

U-102 was another type VIIB, laid down on 22 May, 1939, commissioned 27 Apr, 1940 and sunk by HMS Vansittart in the North Atlantic on 1 July, 1940. (For those of you who may be developing the emminently reasonable idea that I am omniscent. I refer you to http://www.uboat.net, a truly excellent site devoted to the memory of the u boat crews.)

I may be missing something, but I'd make these events center on the various classes of u boats.

RE: Ships from events

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:57 am
by doomtrader
IIRC there were total seven U boats ordered befeore the war and commisioned after the war has started.
But now for the game purposes I decided to join them into groups of four.


And U-boots events already described classess (rather class as both of them are as yyou written VIIB), not single units :-)