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Fleet Capturing

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:46 pm
by TheOx
I captured Belgium as the British (which was a French Protectorate) and it contained a French Fleet. I had blockaded the port with my fleet and I expected the capture of the French fleet as a result of my winning the siege. However, this did not occur. In fact, it stayed in port even though I controlled the province. If I put my fleet into the same port there was a battle (which I won) and then the French fleet remained but at a lower strength. What gives here?

Note: It had the blue dotted line on the interior of the country. I can't remember if this is "occupied" or protectorate status. In any case, Frenchies were running the place.

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:57 pm
by moose1999
I believe the blue dotted line means the province is a protectorate.
I think, according to the manual, you should have chased the fleet out into the sea where it would have had to fight you and then made its escape afterwards from that battle (in case you won, of course) to a neighbouring seazone.
You only capture a fleet (again, according to my memory of the manual) if you have already captured the country's capital or something like that.
So, its strange you didn't at least chase the fleet out of the port, but there might be a whole separate rule for protectorates... I'm not sure.

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:43 pm
by Kingmaker
HiHI
 
Not sure re the capturing nations capital BN, I captured a Venitian fleet in Austrian controled Carniloa, landed an army from a fleet and put the fleet on 'Blockade' when the army captured the province I got the fleet, not much use all 4th raters.
 
All the Best
Peter 

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:38 pm
by TheOx
Weird, I wonder why this didn't click when I did it.

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:34 pm
by Kingmaker
HiHi
 
Dunno about this Ox, but might it be that if you landed the army from the fleet you then needed to imediately set 'Blockade' again (I did) or, dare I ask, you sure you had the right port from a multi-choice drop-down?  Ain't looked at the map so dunno if there is a choice.
 
All the Best
Peter

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:51 pm
by ericbabe
There might be some weird cases involving protectorates.  The best thing to do would be to write a "sanity check" routine, and if an enemy fleet ever ends up in your territory (for whatever reason...), then just have you capture it at that point.  I'll try to sneak this into the first update.

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:50 pm
by mbatch729
Just as an FYI, same exact thing happened in my game too.

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:59 pm
by TheOx
As Spain I captured Lisbon, giving me all Protugal's provinces. I had the Portuguese fleet blockaded and noww they just sit in port, belonging to a country that no longer exists. I haven't tried puttin one of my fleets in with it, as I assume they would battle, but it would be nice if I were to gain control of that fleet after capturing it in port.

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:34 am
by Hard Sarge
OX that is a case of you taking over the Province, turn Portugal into a Protectorate, and the Fleet will become yours

RE: Fleet Capturing

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:49 pm
by Anthropoid
But is it the case that taking control of a Capital would automaticallly give the conqueror possession of the nations fleet?
 
What would be cool is, if in those circumstances some portion of the fleet comes over to control, but perhaps with very depleted strength. Also some other portion should maybe become privateers or something? Dunno anything about that aspect of the period.