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Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:49 pm
by RocketMan
Checking the Aircraft Replacement Pool I noticed that I had used -2 (minus two) Sea Gladiators. Is this a bug, or a feature I don't know about?
Note: Using Stock, Scenario 15 with latest patch.

RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:55 pm
by TheTomDude
Might be wrong (my last game is way back) but I'm pretty sure that means you had them at start but switched the planes in that squadron t to an other typ of plane. Hence those 2 went back to the pool without having a production line for Sea Gladiators and without a squadron receiving this type of plane. You had 0 in the pool and now with "used -2" you have them there.
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:01 pm
by RocketMan
That makes sense, although I didn't disband any squadrons myself. The computer must have disbanded one though, I'll have to check.
Thanks for the reply.
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:05 pm
by erstad
Wouldn't be disbanding, it would be upgrading
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:01 pm
by RocketMan
ORIGINAL: erstad
Wouldn't be disbanding, it would be upgrading
Interesting. Since I am only on December 9th, 1941 and the manual states that "British aircraft may not upgrade until May 1, 1942," I must be missing something.
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:51 pm
by RevRick
ORIGINAL: RocketMan
ORIGINAL: erstad
Wouldn't be disbanding, it would be upgrading
Interesting. Since I am only on December 9th, 1941 and the manual states that "British aircraft may not upgrade until May 1, 1942," I must be missing something.
Now THAT is one rule I'd like to see suspendable, or just plain S^*T-canned.
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:56 am
by Yamato hugger
Well its gone in AE, but I for one agree with the rule as is in WitP. Historically this area was THE very bottom of the British priority list. The Caribbean was (seriously) given a higher priority than the far east until mid-42. And frankly that was probably only because Australia and New Zealand were threatening to pull their troops out of North Africa.
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:54 am
by JeffroK
The rule should be replaced by the non availability/limited availability of aircraft types to be replaced. If you only have a few Hurricanes in the pool you cant rearm many Buffalo Sqns. If you have bolted out of Malaya & Burma and have a spare 20ish Hurris, why cant you change them?
Plus by mid42 6th & 7th Aust had returned to Australia and the NZ Govt never really considered bringing 2 NZ home.
Where would you get the idea that the Caribbean was high in priority to the Brits than the Far East, look at the stream of aircraft from the mid east which crippled CRUSADER and its aftermath, the movement of 3 quality Divisions (2,5 & 78th) to India plus an experienced Armd Bde (7th)
I cant see any similar movement into the WI by the Brits, whereas the USA put significant forces into this backwater (except for the ASW war which was "hot" for a short time.)
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:14 pm
by Barb
that -2 could be from squadron fragment left behind and some of the planes were involuntarily returned to the pool ...
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:54 pm
by jcjordan
It could be from a CW or OZ unit that upgraded as they can upgrade early on but I don't know of a unit offhand that has 2 a/c in it at start but going from memory, bad as it is.
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:11 pm
by Chris21wen
ORIGINAL: RocketMan
Checking the Aircraft Replacement Pool I noticed that I had used -2 (minus two) Sea Gladiators. Is this a bug, or a feature I don't know about?
Note: Using Stock, Scenario 15 with latest patch.
Checking the Aircraft Replacement Pool I noticed that I had used -2 (minus two) Sea Gladiators. Is this a bug, or a feature I don't know about?
The unit is based on the Hermes and has 14 a/c at the start. Its full compliment is 12 so the game has returned 2 to the pool. Why this should happen to ship based a/c I don't know as it doesn't happen to land based a/c or I'v never seen it happen.
RE: Negative Aircraft Used So Far
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:48 pm
by RocketMan
ORIGINAL: Chris H
The unit is based on the Hermes and has 14 a/c at the start. Its full compliment is 12 so the game has returned 2 to the pool. Why this should happen to ship based a/c I don't know as it doesn't happen to land based a/c or I'v never seen it happen.
Thanks for the reply Chris!