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The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:26 am
by Cavalry Corp
Along with the WITP AE this represents the most sought after entire campaign in wargamning

If it works it will be the holy grail of wargaming

There will be many questions to ask along the way but lets say for a start the counters look good and the map reasonable ( considering how long we have to look at it ) . There seems like a departure from the boyish graphics ( shootem up or minatures style) that to me plague Matrix games - good.

10 mile hexes with weekly turns seems good and managable

Hope naval activity is included

Hope there is some politics around leaders replacement

Hope there are lots of chrome units and that breakdown capacity is extended to Divisions

Hope there are good rules on partisans



OK waiting for more news

Cav

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:31 am
by modrow
Cav,

I logged in based on the topic of your thread to say that the holy grail was already close by, relating (of course) to AE. Now, there remains nothing than to agree with you. Perhaps I should add that another GG WWII title, eagle day to bombing the reich makes me salivate as well. Really looking forward to all three of these games, which I consider to be "must buys". Go, Matrix, go !

Hartwig

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:09 am
by Lützow
Frankly, I'm a bit anxious to see this game announced for late 2009 already. There are merely a few hardcore titles in Matrix pipeline and all aim for a contemporary release date.

Having that said, I wouldn't mind if WitE get postponed to 2010. It's always nice to have something worth to wait for.


RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:14 am
by Cavalry Corp
And you do have the nice HPS titles to play in the meantime

IMO WIE is even more complex to simulater than WITP

Cav

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:34 pm
by Ramjet
The Russian Front was the Mother of all battles in WWII. WIR was and still is a great game that I spent many hours playing before WITP came out. Any improvements will be great, but Matrix is already starting with a great product. I'm glad Matrix and GG decided to give this classic a new look. Christmas 2010 would be great!

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:15 pm
by Fred98
ORIGINAL: Ramjet

I'm glad Matrix and GG decided to give this classic a new look.

Different game, same setting.

It will be a U-GO I-GO game

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RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:24 pm
by sross


It will be a U-GO I-GO game

That is really too bad. I was excited until this. If it was WEGO life would be grand. Oh well.

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:40 am
by Erik Rutins
IGOUGO, WEGO, it's still a great game by the same team that made WIR. Have some faith.

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:33 am
by benpark
I'm currently testing this title, and can say without any reservation that the flow of the IGOUGO turn structure fits the theater perfectly.

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:43 am
by Fallschirmjager
Really looking forward to this one. 1 week turns are sort of a turn off but I still will be lined up to buy this monster.
I just hope the AI is good.

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:53 am
by Lützow
I expect nothing more or less, than WitE setting a new benchmark for east front games, where everything else has to be measured on. Like WitP did for pacific war.

And hopefully I can finally send TOAW to retirement.

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:21 am
by Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: Lützow

I expect nothing more or less, than WitE setting a new benchmark for east front games, where everything else has to measured on. Like WitP did for pacific war.

And hopefully I can finally send TOAW to retirement.

Just a moment here [:-]

TOAW have hundreds of scenarios, to mention just The Great War by Daniel McBride which is almost game in itself!!! And where are the others???

This game can be put exactly against DNO and Fite... And FiTE does include Murmansk!

Like developers of Empire Total War (bugs, small things missing from MTW2) this developers also decided to cut corners and not include Murmansk like that is not important...It is! If this is monster game and tend to the excellency then include everything that is important...

Still I will buy this but I will say what I don't like.

So don't expect to send TOAW into retirement...


Mario


RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:57 am
by GaryChildress
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

Really looking forward to this one. 1 week turns are sort of a turn off but I still will be lined up to buy this monster.
I just hope the AI is good.

3 day turns would be optimal to me. 1 day turns would make the game too long. But 1 week turns seem like trying to cram too much into a turn. The German offensive of Kursk would only be 2-3 turns long total. That just doesn't seem right for such a huge battle. [X(]

Still it will be a great game regardless. [8D]

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:15 pm
by Lützow
Battle of Kursk probably would be to small for the scale of this game anyway.

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:53 pm
by paullus99
Not with a game of this scale - Kursk would fit in very well with Regiments, Divisions & Corps.

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:06 pm
by PyleDriver
Really things are working out well for our 43 game. The Soviets reserve units kick in well and make losses ugly. I would love to show some more SS's, but you just have to wait...Sorry...

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:25 pm
by PyleDriver
One more note. There is levels of viewing battles. We have a great combat screen, where the complexicy can be change, squad vs squad, or just the total troops commited with losses displayed...Guys plan on how to get the wife out of the house after you buy this game...lol...

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:34 pm
by sol_invictus
ORIGINAL: PyleDriver

One more note. There is levels of viewing battles. We have a great combat screen, where the complexicy can be change, squad vs squad, or just the total troops commited with losses displayed...Guys plan on how to get the wife out of the house after you buy this game...lol...



Way ahead of you there; I got divorced seven years ago in anticipation of this game.[;)]

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:15 am
by comte
I can't wait for this game really will be the best wargame this year I think or early next year!

RE: The Holy Grail of wargaming

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:16 am
by oldspec4
Same story for me [:)]...