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NKVD

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:11 pm
by ool
The NKVD, apart from getting the best of all equipment and supplies, had a noted effect of "stiffening" the regular troops resolve to stand and fight. A neck shot to the back of the head really gets peoples attention and inspires them, Russian style. Will there be any bonus to a hex if there are NKVD troops defending there as part of the units?[X(]

RE: NKVD

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:14 pm
by Helpless
The NKVD, apart from getting the best of all equipment and supplies, had a noted effect of "stiffening" the regular troops resolve to stand and fight. A neck shot to the back of the head really gets peoples attention and inspires them, Russian style. Will there be any bonus to a hex if there are NKVD troops defending there as part of the units?
no

RE: NKVD

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:55 pm
by Cavalry Corp
I always thought the NKVD units would have been politicaly motivated like Black shirts = low morale , they were not true fighting units as such.

RE: NKVD

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:59 pm
by elmo3
From the NKVD Wiki:

"During World War II, NKVD units were used for rear area security, including stopping desertion. In liberated territory the NKVD and (later) NKGB carried out mass arrests, deportations, and executions. The targets included both collaborators with Germany and non-Communist resistance movements such as the Polish Armia Krajowa..."

RE: NKVD

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:04 pm
by ool
ORIGINAL: cavalry

I always thought the NKVD units would have been politicaly motivated like Black shirts = low morale , they were not true fighting units as such.


Check this out
http://www.1jma.dk/articles/1jmaarticlesNKVD.htm

RE: NKVD

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:09 pm
by PyleDriver
This is another thing already built in. A NKVD regiment fights like a division, how much more can you ask for?

RE: NKVD

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:13 pm
by ool
ORIGINAL: PyleDriver

This is another thing already built in. A NKVD regiment fights like a division, how much more can you ask for?
First I've heard of this. Seems strange. However when you are dealing with political fanatics anything is possible, on any side of the conflict. The stand and fight to the death mind set of the average is well documented throughout the history of the Russian front. Germans underestimated their love of the motherland.

RE: NKVD

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:10 am
by j campbell
ridiculous,

no matter how politically indoctrinated those units were it all boils down to training and efficiency.  NKVD had no more advantage than any other soviet manufactured unit post invasion.  I have yet to encounter any scientific nor objectional piece of evidence that places those units above the regular soviet units in terms of combat efficiency.  By far and away the best books on this are from Niklas Zetterling and Anders frankson.  they cover both the campaign in Normandy and the battle of kursk.  They are the " Freakonimics" of the analysisi of the war in the east.