china, singapore and bataan
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:26 pm
hi
i tried a full campaign as the japanese recently and i found myself in a couple of tough spots (granted this is my first time really playing the main scenario)
china:
i moved a large portion of my south army troops into china (maybe a bad move), thinking I could overrun the mainland real quick. what i found was tons of chinese troops moving to my front line, and finding myself only able to dislodge them from one hex to another. air support didn't really help... bombing runs causes a few casualties, and there's not much room for the navy of course.
i made it to the point where i have half of burma, and i could of maybe moved a large portion of the burma army into the chinese rear, but it's really bad country and looked like it would take forever to get my troops anywhere.
of course i know china was like this historically, but shouldnt i be able to win there if i commit enough assets? i searched a while these forums for info and I came across mentioning of a 'death star'? I'm guessing that's a large amount of troops that completely encircles the enemy right? how many units is enough to do that?
singapore/bataan:
these two bases really hampered my invasion of the DEI. even though both bases are completely encircled, I can only attack with a main force that occupies the same hex.. and it's really tough to do any massive damage. i support the attacks with air raids, but just like china, the ground attacks don't do much damage.
on both bases I did a naval bombardment only to find my BBs really hurt bad. theres mines out there! [;)] (oh and lots of coastal guns apparently).
having a large force in china, I didn't think I could afford pulling troops out of malaysia and the philippines to conduct landings on the DEI. at both bataan and singapore, troop levels between myself and the allies are pretty much equal.
would it be safe to assume that i can pull some out to attack elsewhere. i'm afraid if I start taking out the good units that I'll find myself loosing my little gains that i've made so far.
of course in the game it's only mid feb 42, and compared to history the whole singapore/philippines thing isn't so bad, but those two bases just seem really hard to crack. i guess i'm a little impatient, as i'm used to killing the bad guys real quick when their encircled, but not so much here.
and it's not like the AI can effectively supply these bases. maybe singapore with air transports from sumatra or borneo, but no way can any cargo ships get in or out, so not sure why they haven't starved off yet; they've both been blockaded for a month++ now, with singapore having to supply 25 units and bataan 34.
anyhow, I might just restart the scenario and apply the stuff i've learned from my mistakes, but any tips or pointers would be much appreciated, especially how to use airforce against groud more effectively and of course a solution for china
thanks !
i tried a full campaign as the japanese recently and i found myself in a couple of tough spots (granted this is my first time really playing the main scenario)
china:
i moved a large portion of my south army troops into china (maybe a bad move), thinking I could overrun the mainland real quick. what i found was tons of chinese troops moving to my front line, and finding myself only able to dislodge them from one hex to another. air support didn't really help... bombing runs causes a few casualties, and there's not much room for the navy of course.
i made it to the point where i have half of burma, and i could of maybe moved a large portion of the burma army into the chinese rear, but it's really bad country and looked like it would take forever to get my troops anywhere.
of course i know china was like this historically, but shouldnt i be able to win there if i commit enough assets? i searched a while these forums for info and I came across mentioning of a 'death star'? I'm guessing that's a large amount of troops that completely encircles the enemy right? how many units is enough to do that?
singapore/bataan:
these two bases really hampered my invasion of the DEI. even though both bases are completely encircled, I can only attack with a main force that occupies the same hex.. and it's really tough to do any massive damage. i support the attacks with air raids, but just like china, the ground attacks don't do much damage.
on both bases I did a naval bombardment only to find my BBs really hurt bad. theres mines out there! [;)] (oh and lots of coastal guns apparently).
having a large force in china, I didn't think I could afford pulling troops out of malaysia and the philippines to conduct landings on the DEI. at both bataan and singapore, troop levels between myself and the allies are pretty much equal.
would it be safe to assume that i can pull some out to attack elsewhere. i'm afraid if I start taking out the good units that I'll find myself loosing my little gains that i've made so far.
of course in the game it's only mid feb 42, and compared to history the whole singapore/philippines thing isn't so bad, but those two bases just seem really hard to crack. i guess i'm a little impatient, as i'm used to killing the bad guys real quick when their encircled, but not so much here.
and it's not like the AI can effectively supply these bases. maybe singapore with air transports from sumatra or borneo, but no way can any cargo ships get in or out, so not sure why they haven't starved off yet; they've both been blockaded for a month++ now, with singapore having to supply 25 units and bataan 34.
anyhow, I might just restart the scenario and apply the stuff i've learned from my mistakes, but any tips or pointers would be much appreciated, especially how to use airforce against groud more effectively and of course a solution for china
thanks !