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What's the command structure? Will there be Corps HQ that divisions are attached to and then armies for the Corps and then the army group with Stalin and Hitler top dogs! Is there a command range with problem if your outside of it or how does the command structure work?

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Capt Cliff

What's the command structure? Will there be Corps HQ that divisions are attached to and then armies for the Corps and then the army group with Stalin and Hitler top dogs! Is there a command range with problem if your outside of it or how does the command structure work?

There is command structure and there is penaly from being outside range of HQ (different class HQs have different ranges)! [:)]

Division -> Corps HQ -> Army HQ -> Army Group HQ / Front -> OKH / Stavka


Leo "Apollo11"

Something I had to think about:

With a divisional size structure there would be just about 160 Axis counters at Barabarossa start, plus aircraft units and army headquarters. That sounds, well, not overwhelming, rather like a smaller TOAW scenario.

I hope, WitE won't lack on details and is going set a new standard for eastern front, as WiTP did with pacific theatre.

From the look of the screenshots I don't think the full campaign will seem smallish in the least.

Well, I've faith in 2by3 to present an outstandig game once again which will beat every competing title hands down. Nonetheless it's a bit hard to get an idea about actual gameplay with the current level of information. Hence some more output from beta team would be greatly appreciated. [:)]

Germans could split their division into regimental size fragments and Soviets do have brigades. Number of on-map units could be quite significant.

Can the Germans form Kampfegruppes?

You mean like the old board games?... Divisions can split as I said, otherwise a beat up unit you pull back to a railhead and put in refit...

With HQ's, air units and Axis Allies, there are over 340 counters on turn 1 for the Axis. I'd bet the Soviets will usually have around 400-500 counters. This should be a very playable game, but it is massive in the size of the map (more hexes than WitP) and number of units. For those that don't have time to take on the entire war, scenarios like Typhoon and Case Blue should be much quicker.

ORIGINAL: PyleDriver

You mean like the old board games?... Divisions can split as I said, otherwise a beat up unit you pull back to a railhead and put in refit...

A Kampfegruppe was a collection of units, usually built are around regement or maybe a bunch or collection of battalions (tank, infantry and arty) commanded by a hot shot combat commander like Sturmgruppen Fuerher Pieper. There is a number of special German leaders that commanded kampfegroupes (sp). I believe the USA modelled their combat commands (CCA, CCB and CCR) after this concept but didn't have the same flexibility as the kampfegruppe.

Well, in most cases classical KG would be below the level where the game operates. You don't have all the building blocks for them - individual line infantry/tank/eng battalions are not on map units. However you can customize your formation by attaching various support units (tank/arty/eng) to the division level units, thus creating something very similar to KG.

ORIGINAL: Helpless

Well, in most cases classical KG would be below the level where the game operates. You don't have all the building blocks for them - individual line infantry/tank/eng battalions are not on map units. However you can customize your formation by attaching various support units (tank/arty/eng) to the division level units, thus creating something very similar to KG.

Cool ... works for me!