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Name This AE...383
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:14 pm
by Brady
???
RE: Name This AE...383
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:36 pm
by joey
Boy that ship being towed sure looks like is missing some pieces. And are they hoses on the deck? Not a good day in Mudville!
RE: Name This AE...383
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:41 pm
by Barb
Mogami towed home after surviving collision with Mikuma near Midway and subsequent american airstrikes?
(Note: Although the bow looks damaged in oposite direction as after ramming portside of Mogami at approx 45deg).
RE: Name This AE...383
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:46 pm
by Local Yokel
I agree this looks like Mogami following her collision with Mikuma. Going by the contents of Mogami's TROM, I suspect the oiler ahead of her is Nichei Maru.
RE: Name This AE...383
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:06 pm
by vettim89
ORIGINAL: Barb
Mogami towed home after surviving collision with Mikuma near Midway and subsequent american airstrikes?
(Note: Although the bow looks damaged in oposite direction as after ramming portside of Mogami at approx 45deg).
It is possible the negative got flipped. Happened all the time
RE: Name This AE...383
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:39 pm
by thegreatwent
Hoses? Wait! Japanese ships had damage control?[;)]
I think Mogami for sure and whoever is towing has her engines pressed yet remarkably little exhaust. That chief would seem to know his business.
RE: Name This AE...383
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:12 pm
by Local Yokel
To me the damage looks consistent with Mogami striking the port side of Mikuma, as was the case. I don't think the picture has been reversed. You can see the prominent derrick that is to be found on the port deck aft of many if not all of the big tankers impressed for use as 'merchant oilers', and it is in the correct position for a photograph that has not been reversed. That's why I suggested this was Nichei Maru, and I think she is engaged in refuelling Mogami rather than towing her. Why would Mogami need a tow anyway? Is there any reason to suppose that the collision left her incapable of proceeding under her own power?
RE: Name This AE...383
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:18 am
by Midnight19D
Other than the fact she is missing her bow? or at least it looks like it
RE: Name This AE...383
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:01 am
by Brady
Mogami, it is[:)]
Nichiei Maru, it is[:)]
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While the image source is no help it is almost ashuardely Mogami and the Nichiei, as noted above the TROMS and Mogamis condation both point to it being non other.
From Nichiei's TROM:
7 June 1942:
NICHIEI MARU refuels collision-damaged MOGAMI using the stern-to-bow technique.