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Is it just me remembering somebody claiming respawn will be done away with? In the manual it is clearly stated that it works nearly the same as it was in WitP. What's the turth on this? Are we going to get CV hulls No. 10, 16 etc at their intended comission date and this respawn thingie is in addition to that or will it remain the same as it was?

Thanks,

We have a scenario switch for this that can be set to "On" or "Off" in the editor. For the big campaign in the version you'll be getting, it's set to "On".

Actually its set to off for the main scenario [:D][:D]
 
Those hulls are already accounted for in the US reinforcement path
 
On my own personal v the Allied AI mod I tend to re activate it

When it's OFF, and you get the hulls, what are the names of those ships? Yorktown II? Lexington II?

Yes

If the first 6 carriers are not sunk, what happens then?

You get the replacement essex's anyway

4 that is Lex, Wasp, Hornet and Yorktown ii
 
If respawn is ON in addition to these 4 hulls you get a replacement for any that are sunk (the delay is a lot longer than stock though)
 
Its primarily for th eAI and is set to off even for std AI scenarios

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

When it's OFF, and you get the hulls, what are the names of those ships? Yorktown II? Lexington II?

That would be Cabot, Bon Homme Richard, Kearsage, and Oriskany.. Which of course leads to the question what happens to the two that should be in the WWII OOB: Cabot built as a CVL and Bon Homme Richard CV-31 commisioned in November 1944?

I can help you with some "extra" Essex class names if you need them!

The Essex class

Ship Keel laid Launched Commissioned Decommissioned Fate
USS Essex (CV-9) April 1941 July 1942 December 1942 June 1969 Scrapped (June 1975)
USS Yorktown (CV-10) December 1941 January 1943 April 1943 June 1970 Museum (October 1975)
USS Intrepid (CV-11) December 1941 April 1943 August 1943 March 1974 Museum (August 1982)
USS Hornet (CV-12) August 1942 August 1943 November 1943 June 1970 Museum (July 1989)
USS Franklin (CV-13) December 1942 October 1943 January 1944 February 1947 Scrapped (August 1966)
USS Ticonderoga (CV-14) February 1943 February 1944 May 1944 September 1973 Scrapped (September 1975)
USS Randolph (CV-15) May 1943 June 1944 October 1944 February 1969 Scrapped (May 1975)
USS Lexington (CV-16) July 1941 September 1942 February 1943 November 1991 Museum (June 1992)
USS Bunker Hill (CV-17) September 1941 December 1942 May 1943 January 1947 Scrapped (May 1973)
USS Wasp (CV-18) March 1942 August 1943 November 1943 July 1972 Scrapped (May 1973)
USS Hancock (CV-19) January 1943 January 1944 April 1944 January 1976 Scrapped (September 1976)
USS Bennington (CV-20) December 1942 February 1944 August 1944 January 1970 Scrapped (January 1994)
USS Boxer (CV-21) September 1943 December 1944 April 1945 December 1969 Scrapped (February 1971)
USS Bon Homme Richard (CV-31) February 1943 April 1944 November 1944 July 1971 Scrapped (March 1992)
USS Leyte (CV-32) February 1944 August 1945 April 1946 May 1959 Scrapped (March 1970)
USS Kearsarge (CV-33) March 1944 May 1945 March 1946 February 1970 Scrapped (September 1970)
USS Oriskany (CV-34) May 1944 October 1945 September 1950 September 1976 Scuttled (May 2006)
USS Antietam (CV-36) March 1943 August 1944 January 1945 May 1963 Scrapped (February 1974)
USS Princeton (CV-37) September 1943 July 1945 November 1945 January 1970 Scrapped (May 1971)
USS Shangri-La (CV-38) January 1943 February 1944 September 1944 July 1971 Scrapped (August 1988)
USS Lake Champlain (CV-39) March 1943 November 1944 June 1945 May 1966 Scrapped (April 1972)
USS Tarawa (CV-40) March 1943 May 1945 November 1945 June 1967 Scrapped (October 1968)
USS Valley Forge (CV-45) September 1944 November 1945 November 1946 January 1970 Scrapped (October 1971)
USS Philippine Sea (CV-47) August 1944 September 1945 May 1946 December 1958 Scrapped (March 1971)
Oriskany (CV-34) was ordered and laid down as an Essex-class vessel, was completed in 1950 to the much modified SCB-27A design.
Reprisal (CV-35), laid down in July 1944 at the New York Navy Yard and launched in 1945, was scrapped incomplete after tests; and Iwo Jima (CV-46) was laid down at Newport News Shipbuilding yards in January 1945 but cancelled in August 1945 and broken up on the slipway.

The Essex class numbered ten ships, all built in three east coast shipyards:
Essex (CV-9). Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in April 1941; launched in July 1942; commissioned in December 1942.
Yorktown (CV-10) (name changed from Bon Homme Richard in September 1942). Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in December 1941; launched in January 1943; commissioned in April 1943.
Intrepid (CV-11). Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in Decenber 1941; launched in April 1943; commissioned in August 1943.
Hornet (CV-12) (name changed from Kearsarge in January 1943) . Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in August 1942; launched in August 1943; commissioned in November 1943.
Franklin (CV-13). Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in December 1942; launched in October 1943; commissioned in January 1944.
Lexington (CV-16) (name changed from Cabot in June 1942). Built by the Bethlehem Steel Company, Quincy, Massachusetts. Keel laid in July 1941; launched in September 1942; commissioned in February 1943.
Bunker Hill (CV-17). Built by the Bethlehem Steel Company, Quincy, Massachusetts. Keel laid in September 1941; launched in December 1942; commissioned in May 1943.
Wasp (CV-18) (name changed from Oriskany in November 1942). Built by the Bethlehem Steel Company, Quincy, Massachusetts. Keel laid in March 1942; launched in August 1943; commissioned in November 1943.
Bennington (CV-20). Built by the New York Navy Yard, Brooklyn, New York. Keel laid in December 1942; launched in February 1944; commissioned in August 1944.
Bon Homme Richard (CV-31). Built by the New York Navy Yard, Brooklyn, New York. Keel laid in February 1943; launched in April 1944; commissioned in November 1944.

The Ticonderoga class numbered thirteen completed ships. Another (CV-34) was finished after heavy modifications, two more (CVs 35 and 46) were scrapped incomplete and six Fiscal Year 1945 ships were cancelled before being laid down. Construction of all twenty-two was assigned to six east coast shipyards:
Ticonderoga (CV-14) (name changed from Hancock in May 1943). Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in February 1943; launched in February 1944; commissioned in May 1944.
Randolph (CV-15). Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in May 1943; launched in June 1944; commissioned in October 1944.
Hancock (CV-19) (name changed from Ticonderoga in May 1943). Built by the Bethlehem Steel Company, Quincy, Massachusetts. Keel laid in January 1943; launched in January 1944; commissioned in April 1944.
Boxer (CV-21). Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in September 1943; launched in December 1944; commissioned in April 1945.
Leyte (CV-32) (name changed from Crown Point in May 1945). Built by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company, Newport News, Virginia. Keel laid in February 1944; launched in August 1945; commissioned in April 1946.
Kearsarge (CV-33). Built by the New York Navy Yard, Brooklyn, New York. Keel laid in March 1944; launched in May 1945; commissioned in March 1946.
Antietam (CV-36). Built by the Philadelphia Navy Yard, Pennsylvania. Keel laid in March 1943; launched in August 1944; commissioned in January 1945.
Princeton (CV-37) (name changed from Valley Forge in November 1944). Built by the Philadelphia Navy Yard, Pennsylvania. Keel laid in September 1943; launched in July 1945; commissioned in November 1945.
Shangri-La (CV-38). Built by the Norfolk Navy Yard, Portsmouth, Virginia. Keel laid in January 1943; launched in February 1944; commissioned in September 1944.
Lake Champlain (CV-39). Built by the Norfolk Navy Yard, Portsmouth, Virginia. Keel laid in March 1943; launched in November 1944; commissioned in June 1945.
Tarawa (CV-40). Built by the Norfolk Navy Yard, Portsmouth, Virginia. Keel laid in March 1944; launched in May 1945; commissioned in December 1945.
Valley Forge (CV-45). Built by the Philadelphia Navy Yard, Pennsylvania. Keel laid in September 1944; launched in November 1945; commissioned in November 1946.
Philippine Sea (CV-47) (name changed from Wright in February 1945). Built by the Bethlehem Steel Company, Quincy, Massachusetts. Keel laid in August 1944; launched in September 1945; commissioned in May 1946.
In addition to these thirteen carriers, Oriskany (CV-34), built at the New York Navy Yard, was completed in 1950 to the much modified SCB-27A design; Reprisal (CV-35), laid down in July 1944 at the New York Navy Yard and launched in 1945, was scrapped incomplete after tests; and Iwo Jima (CV-46) was laid down at Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company in January 1945 but cancelled in August 1945 and broken up on the shipways. The six Fiscal Year 1945 ships, none of which received names, were assigned to Bethlehem Steel Company (CV-50), New York Navy Yard (CVs 51 & 52), Philadelphia Navy Yard (CV-53) and Norfolk Navy Yard (CVs 54 and 55). Their construction was cancelled in March 1945.

Thanks for the info; however, we've got most (if not all) of that incorporated including the canal transit dates. [:)]

We had a fairly involved discussion about what to name the ships.  We settled on Yorktown II, Wasp II, etc. to keep from confusing those who don't know that those ships were renamed while under construction.  Sort of a least common denominator thing.  If somebody wants to name them the name they were laid down as, there is always the option of making a mod.

Bill

ORIGINAL: wdolson

We had a fairly involved discussion about what to name the ships.  We settled on Yorktown II, Wasp II, etc. to keep from confusing those who don't know that those ships were renamed while under construction.  Sort of a least common denominator thing.  If somebody wants to name them the name they were laid down as, there is always the option of making a mod.

Bill

or renaming them while still in the replacement queue.

Thanks for the answers guys, this is what I wanted to hear. I've always hated in WitP loosing 4 of the relatively early class members of the Essex class if I haven't lost a CV previously...and oh yeah, I'm going to rename them while in the queue

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

ORIGINAL: wdolson

We had a fairly involved discussion about what to name the ships.  We settled on Yorktown II, Wasp II, etc. to keep from confusing those who don't know that those ships were renamed while under construction.  Sort of a least common denominator thing.  If somebody wants to name them the name they were laid down as, there is always the option of making a mod.

Bill

or renaming them while still in the replacement queue.

Very neat feature. Me likes. [8D]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

or renaming them while still in the replacement queue.

You can do that? If so it would be easy to dig up completely new names that follow naming conventions like "Chancellorsville" or "San Juan Hill" or "Constellation"

You can only rename ships in the reinforcement queue when their names end in " II", " III" or " IV". This feature is intent to allow players to rename replacement ships if the original has not been lost. That is, so you do not end up with both Yorktown and Yorktown II in service at the same time.

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


You can only rename ships in the reinforcement queue when their names end in " II", " III" or " IV". This feature is intent to allow players to rename replacement ships if the original has not been lost. That is, so you do not end up with both Yorktown and Yorktown II in service at the same time.

Cool! I like that! And it makes sense for it to be the respawns only.

That is, as long as smartass admirals don't launch ships named "USS Margaritaville".... I might ask for a "No Joke Ship Names" House Rule!!!!!