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Shipyards not "working"???

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 6:14 am
by Toro
Has anyone had a problem with shipyards failing to both work AND not even show up on the planet's list of installations, although it's plainly existing -- built (by me) and displayed above the planet??

I'm playing on the intermediate level, and 3 of my 4 shipyards are non-functional in this way. Errrrr....

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 6:00 pm
by Andrew Ewanchyna
Hi Toro, If by shipyard you mean Spacedock, then you won't see them in your world's item list. It only "works" when a starship comes into "port" and docks. Otherwise, it just sits there above your planet. What are you expecting them to do?

That wasn't much help...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 12:53 am
by Toro
I'm expecting them to:

1. repair/upgrade my ships when they come to the planet...

3. not appear as bugs in the program...

Can I get the forum moderator to address this issue, or someone who can address a potential bug? I'm not a newbie to this game. I've played many SU games thus far, and this problem has appeared only when I started using "intermediate" difficulty. My ships, when sent to a planet with a "spacedock" (forgive my misnomer) that is affected this way, only stop and request to be sent to SOL for repairs/upgrades.

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:16 am
by madmax88
Err, just so you know, you were actually talking to the one guy who developped the entire game.

...hilarious. :D

ps: are we "expected to read between the lines? what's between 1 and 3 in your expectations?

pps: spacedocks will repair/refit starships when told to do so. Your ship has to be on "Honor captain's upgrades" to refit and your components must be damaged above a specified (by you) amount to be replaced at spacedock.

And "2." would be...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 3:42 am
by Toro
I've always been a bit impatient with curt answers...

Heya Madmax. Yeah, I've done all this, checked my list (twice, etc). Oddity is that the ships, when ordered to a location that has a spacedock, will go there, then simply ask for next orders, even when accepting captain's request for updates and the spacedock is unoccupied (as in, no ship currently being worked on). Then, if I send the ship to Sol -- where, by this time, I have six ships lined up for repairs/updates, as Sol seems to be the only "operational" dock -- the ship will go there, get the animated hammer going, and stand in line for repair (now being the seventh in line).

Do you know of any other conditions which affect whether a dock will function or not? Minimum pop on the planet? Just has me baffled.

I just verified this again, too. All working (er, NOT working) like I have noted.

PS: #2. was actually edited out, as I checked his comment on the dock not appearing in the list of facilities, acknowledging his correctness. See! I can be humble... :rolleyes:

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 4:08 am
by madmax88
Well here's all i know about refitting/repairing ships:

- "Honor captain's upgrade must be on for refits"
- Subsequently, make sure you've selected a new config from the ship config menu and then hit "use this config"
- No repairs are done when under a specified amount (eg. 40% , 50 % damage or more etc.)
- Sometimes you'll order a ship to refit but instead it asks for a mission, try hiting space again. Same when using the break battle command, you have to keep pressing space to have it obey that order. Might just be a lousy Helm officer onboard...;)
- With all the above, if you order a ship to return to (xplanet) for refits and repairs, it will refited, the planet will refit it if there ain't any spacedock. Correct me if i'm wrong here.

- Still does it? Send your savegame to andrew i suppose. Might be a bug on your side... try installing the patch first.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2002 3:59 am
by Andrew Ewanchyna
Sheesh, can't have any fun. :( Oh, moderator ... ;)

Toro, try installing the new patch. If you still have problems then you can attach the saved game to an email and send it to support@apezone.com, were I'll take a looksy.

Chief Sanitation Engineer,
Andrew Ewanchyna

Will do...

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2002 7:13 pm
by Toro
Thanks, Andrew. I'll install the patch tonight, then check the situation, let you know.

Toro:)