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Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:03 am
by ilovestrategy
I bought Kelly's Heroes for $5.99 and boy did I love it!

Carrol O'Connor telling his aid to get the ionosphere out of the way was hilarious! [:D]

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:21 am
by doomtrader
Didn't get the title until I googled it.
In Poland the title was translated to "Gold for cheekys"

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:03 am
by vonRocko
ORIGINAL: doomtrader


In Poland the title was translated to "Gold for cheekys"

[:D][:D]
This is one of my favorite movies! How does a proper name like Kelly get changed? I wonder what "Patton" translates into ?

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:29 pm
by Fred98
The best movie ever made!

I would watch this 3 or 4 times per year!

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:53 am
by bairdlander2
I have it as well,its excellent.Oddball is great laughs,a hippie in WW2.There was talk years ago of a sequel.It was loosely based on actual events.The perps were not found untill 1982 I beleive.And the amount of gold was 1.3 million if I recall correctly.

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:37 pm
by Monkeys Brain
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

I bought Kelly's Heroes for $5.99 and boy did I love it!

Carrol O'Connor telling his aid to get the ionosphere out of the way was hilarious! [:D]


And some parts were filmed in place where I lived. In 1970. In exYugoslavia.

That scene whene tanks are coming out of mine. heh.

And Clint Eastwood liked our home made brandy (rakija). The mine was closed in late 60's and probably Tito said yes to producers and gave them locations for making this movie (probably that was paid of course). Little trivia.





RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:02 pm
by SlickWilhelm
Sorry to disagree, but....ugh. I liked this movie when I was a kid, but after I grew up and read more about WWII, I just can't buy into the Donald Sutherland hippie character. 

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:16 pm
by SLAAKMAN
Sorry to disagree, but....ugh. I liked this movie when I was a kid, but after I grew up and read more about WWII, I just can't buy into the Donald Sutherland hippie character.
Oddball fit in perfectly. He wasnt a "60's Hippie" (the 60's Hippie's were only the result of the previous 50 years of Jazz Groovers). He was a Jazz characture from pre-Beatnik Hobo subculture of the Daddy Hipsters circa the 1910 Jazz era. His character was utterly contemporary of the 30's & 40's Swing generation. [:D]

Hipster Daddy-O and the Handgrenades Perpetrator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTnJpK3yL8
The Beat Generation, that was a vision that we had, John Clellon Holmes and I, and Allen Ginsberg in an even wilder way, in the late Forties, of a generation of crazy, illuminated hipsters suddenly rising and roaming America, serious, bumming and hitchhiking everywhere, ragged, beatific, beautiful in an ugly graceful new way—a vision gleaned from the way we had heard the word "beat" spoken on street corners on Times Square and in the Village, in other cities in the downtown city night of postwar America—beat, meaning down and out but full of intense conviction. We'd even heard old 1910 Daddy Hipsters of the streets speak the word that way, with a melancholy sneer. It never meant juvenile delinquents, it meant characters of a special spirituality who didn't gang up but were solitary Bartlebies staring out the dead wall window of our civilization..
Duke Ellington - It don't mean a thing if it aint got that Swing (1943)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQpZT3GhDg
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RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:41 pm
by Arctic Blast
ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm

Sorry to disagree, but....ugh. I liked this movie when I was a kid, but after I grew up and read more about WWII, I just can't buy into the Donald Sutherland hippie character. 

Well yeah, it's not exactly supposed to be taken seriously.

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:12 pm
by Fred98
ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm
.......I just can't buy into the Donald Sutherland hippie character. 


Don't give us them negatives vibes so early in the morning!



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RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:22 pm
by SlickWilhelm
ORIGINAL: Joe 98

ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm
.......I just can't buy into the Donald Sutherland hippie character. 


Don't give us them negatives vibes so early in the morning!


Ok, I admit that I always laugh while rolling my eyes at that line in the movie. [:)]


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RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:59 pm
by Blackhorse

Sgt. Oddball was my inspiration -- probably the main reason why I became a cavalry officer. [:)]

"Hey man, I just ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em work."

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:32 am
by ilovestrategy
There you are with those negative waves again!  [:D]

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:00 am
by bigbaba
like the film too. great actors and (sorry to say that) the german synchro is better like in most of the other war movies.

the best part is the interrogation of the german oberst at the beginning. he is willing to tell them military informations and all they want to know is where to eat, sleep and "have fun".[:D] and general colt at the radio is also a great scene. "go away with the breakfast. dont you see that we are playing war here?"[:D]

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:46 pm
by morvwilson
Wow!
Sooooo many positive waves here.
Okay, your on, I'll watch it again![:D]

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:51 pm
by SLAAKMAN

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:16 pm
by JudgeDredd
I was NEVER a BIG fan of this film - I think becuase it was kind of "tongue in cheek - cheeky chappies" war movie....


Apparently, unlike my games, I do like some historical accuracy in my movies, but apparently not in my games! [:'(]

Actually thinking about it, I just didn't really like the "tongue in cheek - cheeky chappies" war movies.

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:34 pm
by JRodda
Kelly's Heroes was a great movie during that great time in film making known as the revisionist period (1968-72).  Eastwood, Sutherland, and Rickles were great, and my favorite scene was the Sergio Leone style Western standoff with the German Tank.  I also loved the great Mike Curb Convenion song: "All the burning bridges that are falling around me...."  ;o)

Other great films of note in that period: Kubrick's 'Space Odyssey' and 'A Clockwork Orange', 'Planet of the Apes', 'Patton', 'Little Big Man', 'Last Picture Show', 'Where Eagles Dare', 'The Wild Bunch', 'Zardoz', 'Colossus: The Forbin Project' and 'Solaris', to name a few.  

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:39 pm
by Big B
Nope, sorry to disagree with you SLAAKMAN - but the truth is Oddball was very much a 1960's hippie. I saw the movie when it came out back in 1970. Sutherland's character was perhaps 'feasible' as a proto-beatnik, but he was a sop to the new hippie generation without a doubt (which does not mean I don't think the character was very funny - he was).

In any kind of war movie - especially a WWII movie back then (in the heart of the WWII generation) you never saw that kind of character in any way shape or form before. It took the political realities of 1969 to bring Oddball to the screen, in much the same way that the movie M.A.S.H. told its story a couple of years later.

If you all want to see real people portrayed as the real WWII generation saw themselves at the time - see "A Walk In The Sun" from 1945, or "The Story of G.I.Joe"(The Ernie Pyle Story) also from 1945. Both were about the events of the invasion of Italy in 1943. Both films portrayed all views on combat, and did not denigrate the view that men can be weak or even a failure in combat - and that weakness is not even dishonorable per say - it happens because man is not an unfeeling machine and unless you live it - don't judge it.

The point is that - that Oddball was a (very funny) character, but out of time for the era he portrayed. He would have been well at home in the later days of Vietnam (in the post Vietnamization of Nixon) but he didn't represent a realistic man of the WWII era ... even a man disliking the idea of getting killed.

No flames buddy -
B

ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN
Sorry to disagree, but....ugh. I liked this movie when I was a kid, but after I grew up and read more about WWII, I just can't buy into the Donald Sutherland hippie character.
Oddball fit in perfectly. He wasnt a "60's Hippie" (the 60's Hippie's were only the result of the previous 50 years of Jazz Groovers). He was a Jazz characture from pre-Beatnik Hobo subculture of the Daddy Hipsters circa the 1910 Jazz era. His character was utterly contemporary of the 30's & 40's Swing generation. [:D]

RE: Kelly's Heroes

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:45 pm
by JudgeDredd
ORIGINAL: Big B
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The point is that - that Oddball was a (very funny) character, but out of time for the era he portrayed
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Hence my claim to like historical accuracy in my war movies to an extent [:D]