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When you go to change the HQ of a unit, it breaks the HQs down into an org chart style screen.

Has anyone made a spreadsheet with this org chart and if so, could I get a copy of the US one?

Thanks,

I had played with this already (and somewhat took a free hand in representing various command levels or layers). Here is picture of one:



dates are for HQs factual arrival.
Green is for Ground HQs
Light Blue for Air HQs
Dark Blue for Navy HQs

Now if i could only figure out how to post rar/zip archive here.... If you are interested in whole package of allied commands, just send me an e-mail/pm.

Dont wish to see China Command!!! [:D]

Those are great looking org charts! Are the dates when the actual unit arrives?

Yup, taken from Ground Unit arrivals in information screen

Outstanding, these will be a huge help!

Thanks!

(These are for AE, not WitP, right?)

Several questions.

1) Famously, USAAF 8th Air Force was in Europe. Did the command really move to the Pacific in '45???

2) Was Burma Command really reporting to ABDA???

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Several questions.

1) Famously, USAAF 8th Air Force was in Europe. Did the command really move to the Pacific in '45???

Yes. It was transferred to Okinawa on 16th July 1945.

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
2) Was Burma Command really reporting to ABDA???

No. But it was reporting to (British) Far East Command until 12th December 1941 (then to India Command). Far East Command changes (renames) to ABDA in the AE (historically, Far East Command was abolished on 15th January 1942 when ABDA Command opened).

Looking good!!! Thanks for taking the time to do these Barb, I've sent you a PM. [:)]

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Several questions.

1) Famously, USAAF 8th Air Force was in Europe. Did the command really move to the Pacific in '45???

Yes. It was transferred to Okinawa on 16th July 1945.

Hmm...didn't know that. That must have been a logistical nighmare. Did they just leave all their equipment in England and get new stuff?

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
2) Was Burma Command really reporting to ABDA???

No. But it was reporting to (British) Far East Command until 12th December 1941 (then to India Command). Far East Command changes (renames) to ABDA in the AE (historically, Far East Command was abolished on 15th January 1942 when ABDA Command opened).

Hmm..didn't know that either. That surprises me. There must have been a new parent unit when the DEI fell?

Nice charts Barb!

Picky point.

For US commands, it was the practice to use the ordinal number when describing the unit (at least in common usage) so "Eight Air Force" would probably be better "Eighth Air Force".

I honestly don't know it would appear on an official document especially with a numeral. Possibly "8 Air Force" would be right although I have seen "8th Air Force" as well.

Anyone know?

Great job! I was about to do these myself, but now I don't have to. PM send.

A big thank you! [&o]

PM sent

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Several questions.

1) Famously, USAAF 8th Air Force was in Europe. Did the command really move to the Pacific in '45???

Yes. It was transferred to Okinawa on 16th July 1945.

Hmm...didn't know that. That must have been a logistical nighmare. Did they just leave all their equipment in England and get new stuff?

It was transferred without personnel, equipment and combat elements. Some personnel and combat units were assigned before VJ Day, but 8th AF did not participate in combat against Japan.

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
2) Was Burma Command really reporting to ABDA???

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen
No. But it was reporting to (British) Far East Command until 12th December 1941 (then to India Command). Far East Command changes (renames) to ABDA in the AE (historically, Far East Command was abolished on 15th January 1942 when ABDA Command opened).

Hmm..didn't know that either. That surprises me. There must have been a new parent unit when the DEI fell?

No, for the British there was just India Command as Theater HQ until SEAC (or more correctly: SACSEA) was created at Delhi on 16th November 1943.

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Thanks for sending the charts, they are great! Need to get this to a download site so he has to do less work emailing everyone [:)]

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ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
2) Was Burma Command really reporting to ABDA???

No. But it was reporting to (British) Far East Command until 12th December 1941 (then to India Command). Far East Command changes (renames) to ABDA in the AE (historically, Far East Command was abolished on 15th January 1942 when ABDA Command opened).

Hmm It would be interesting to know who designed this map then?
I think Wavel got ABDA together with Burma under his command.

Wiki:
"Following the Declaration by the United Nations on 1 January 1942, the Allied governments formally appointed Wavell. The formation of ABDACOM meant that Wavell had nominal control of a huge, but thinly-spread force, covering an area from Burma in the west, to Dutch New Guinea and the Philippines in the east. Other areas, including India and Hawaii remained officially under separate commands, and in practice General Douglas MacArthur was in complete control of Allied forces in The Philippines. At Wavell's insistence, the western half of northern Australia (see map) was added to the ABDA area. The rest of Australia was under Australian control, as was the Territory of New Guinea."

And from another source:
(Note: 92nd meridian is somewhere between Akyab and Cox Bazaar)

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Nice charts Barb!

Picky point.

For US commands, it was the practice to use the ordinal number when describing the unit (at least in common usage) so "Eight Air Force" would probably be better "Eighth Air Force".

I honestly don't know it would appear on an official document especially with a numeral. Possibly "8 Air Force" would be right although I have seen "8th Air Force" as well.

Anyone know?

I will look at proper Air Force names. On the other hand I dont want to have names too long.