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Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:15 pm
by witpqs
Is there a key to the abbreviations used for the headings on the pilot skill quality screen? Some of them are obvious but a few are not.

PS: Didn't find it in the manual, apologies if I plain missed it.

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:34 pm
by John Lansford
I'm still trying to figure out why only 4 of my CV fighter pilots are qualified to fly, when I've got many more planes than that available to be used.

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:22 pm
by Halsey

John,
CV airgroups need to be at sea, or undocked to train.
Give that a try.

witpqs,
Which mission abbreviations?

Low anything is under 6000'.
Straffing is 100'.
The rest are all above 6000'.


RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:33 pm
by witpqs
Well for example there are some that look like they mean naval bombing, naval attack, and another that looks like it means low naval attack - but does that work in conjunction with both bombs and torps, or is it a separate one on its won that means 'low naval bombing'?

Does the one that looks like low ground bombing apply only to attacking ground troops, or does it work for cities, ports, airfields?

The thing is when you look at the training missions available they don't match up with the skills list as well as it first appears (not a 1 to 1). I was hoping to get a secret decoder ring... [&:]

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:49 pm
by Mynok

Naval Bombing
Naval Torpedo
Naval Search
Recon
ASW
Transport
Ground Bombing
Low Naval
Low Ground
Strafing
Defense

What's confusing? [&:]

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:05 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Mynok


Naval Bombing
Naval Torpedo
Naval Search
Recon
ASW
Transport
Ground Bombing
Low Naval
Low Ground
Strafing
Defense

Thanks!
What's confusing? [&:]

I think I gave a couple of examples already.

You want to do low level bombing against a TF. Does just the Low Naval skill count, or do both Low Naval and Naval Bombing count?

It depends on how you did it in the code, not how it looks like you probably did it!

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:38 pm
by Jim D Burns
Edit: Never mind, just read Halsey's post.

Jim

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:41 pm
by Mynok
Low anything is under 6000'.
Straffing is 100'.
The rest are all above 6000'.

I'm still not getting where the confusion is coming from.


RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:48 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Mynok

Low anything is under 6000'.
Straffing is 100'.
The rest are all above 6000'.

I'm still not getting where the confusion is coming from.

Here's a set of three questions to help clear up things.

A)

You assign a mission of Naval Attack, altitude set at 3,000 ft. The unit is flying the B-25C, armed with bombs.

Which skills are used (complete list)?

B)

You assign a mission of Naval Attack, altitude set at 3,000 ft. The unit is flying the Avenger TB, armed with torps.

Which skills are used (complete list)?

C)

You assign a mission of Naval Attack, altitude set at 10,000 ft. The unit is flying the Avenger TB, armed with torps.

Which skills are used (complete list)?

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:31 pm
by Mynok

A) Low Nav

B) Low Nav

C) Nav Torp

That's how I read it.


RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:38 am
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Mynok


A) Low Nav

B) Low Nav

C) Nav Torp

That's how I read it.

Is this pretty firm?

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:43 am
by Tophat1815
ORIGINAL: Mynok


A) Low Nav

B) Low Nav

C) Nav Torp

That's how I read it.


With you on this. Am of very,very high confidence on C.Others just High confidence.

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:51 am
by witpqs
I appreciate your responses. I was hoping to get an authoritative answer from someone with official AE knowledge.

The real answers might just as easily be:

A) {pilot exp}/{nav bomb}/{low nav}

B) {pilot exp}/{nav torp}/{low nav}

C) {pilot exp}/{nav torp}

And for any of them add {def} if attacked by CAP.

In other words, multiple skill levels might affect mission performance. You might need the appropriate nav attack skill (bomb or torp) PLUS low nav if attacking TF's low. Many such combinations are possible. It just depends on how they decided to do it, which might not be the most apparent way. That's why I'm asking.

[8D]


RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:27 pm
by Halsey
This is pretty much it in a nutshell.

The only oddball is the torpedo skill.
5000+' for single eng and 6000+' for multi eng.

You'll also see bombers with straffing skills go to straffing altitude on their own initiative, if they are set on 5000'-100' naval attacks.
FB's like to do this a lot.[;)]

Play around with the altitude attacks, you'll see some interesting things happen.[:)]

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:36 pm
by Halsey
Here's what I train for.
The basic stuff.
Though I do pick out a few for elite missions and specialties.

Attack bombers / FB's:
Low nav, straffing

Med bombers:
Naval, nav search, asw

4E bombers:
Land, nav search, asw

Patrol:
Naval, nav search, asw

Recon:
Recon, nav search

Fighters / FB's:
Air

After I reach these skills, I set them on general training.[;)]

The ground missions train the fastest without setting them to train.
So it's easy to get the skill by actually doing the mission.

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:42 pm
by stuman
ORIGINAL: Halsey

Here's what I train for.
The basic stuff.
Though I do pick out a few for elite missions and specialties.

Attack bombers / FB's:
Low nav, straffing

Med bombers:
Naval, nav search, asw

4E bombers:
Land, nav search, asw

Patrol:
Naval, nav search, asw

Recon:
Recon, nav search

Fighters / FB's:
Air

After I reach these skills, I set them on general training.[;)]

The ground missions train the fastest without setting them to train.
So it's easy to get the skill by actually doing the mission.
Very helpful. Thx.

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:57 pm
by Halsey
No problem.[;)]

Two things to look for:
Straffing- 100' training altitude
Low naval- 5000'-1000' training altitude.

Sometimes, depending on the aircraft, it'll dual train straffing and low level.
Seems to be FB's that'll do it.
Fighters also seem to do air and straffing at 100'.
Just keep an eye out on the pilots as they train.
You'll see what you're getting.

At the top of the pilot screen you'll see the avg exp of your skills.
Very handy, then you'll see the unit skills listed above the leader on the main unit screen.

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:12 pm
by Mynok

[&o]

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:38 pm
by Zebedee
Much appreciated Halsey.

RE: Pilot Skill Levels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:42 pm
by Mynok

Pondering some of that, I'm thinking that Japanese player will do the following for med bomber types: Ground, asw, nav search

There aren't any other decent land attack assets, while there are tons of excellent naval attack assets.