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How come...

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:24 pm
by hbrsvl
Hi- ...Some US subs will load troops and others won't?

Situation: Scen. 1, Allies,12/21/'41, Manilla. I have 7 US subs from Shark, Perch & Porpoise classes docked at Manilla. Set them to Sub transport. The "load troops" is grayed out.

Same place, same time , an S boat docked. Set to Sub Transport, load troops in white, loading troops. BTW, LCU is set to Strategic mode.

Thoughts, anyone? Hugh Browne

RE: How come...

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:31 pm
by Mike Solli
Page 125 of the rule book:
 
"6.3.3.2.4 SHIP AND PORT LOAD ABILITY TABLE
Columns 2 – 6 are the individual ship rates for the Item classifications above, and are for 12-
hour phases. The last two columns are the daily port limits. These values are for undamaged
ports with no Naval Support present. Fast Transport rates apply only for Fast Transport Task
Forces loading/unloading in locations that do not have a port. Submarine Transports load
at a special rate to reflect the difficulty of loading and unloading these ships, and a limited
number of transport submarines can load at a given port in a given day.
Fuel and oil load at
the same rate for undamaged ports but react slightly differently to port damage. Values are
in load points."

RE: How come...

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:49 pm
by hbrsvl
Mike-Thanks I read over that quote but didn't remenber it. HB

RE: How come...

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:19 pm
by Shark7
Given the difficulty of loading subs with men and supplies, just imagine what an operation like the Makin Island raid must have entailed.

RE: How come...

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:10 pm
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Page 125 of the rule book:

"6.3.3.2.4 SHIP AND PORT LOAD ABILITY TABLE
Columns 2 – 6 are the individual ship rates for the Item classifications above, and are for 12-
hour phases. The last two columns are the daily port limits. These values are for undamaged
ports with no Naval Support present. Fast Transport rates apply only for Fast Transport Task
Forces loading/unloading in locations that do not have a port. Submarine Transports load
at a special rate to reflect the difficulty of loading and unloading these ships, and a limited
number of transport submarines can load at a given port in a given day.
Fuel and oil load at
the same rate for undamaged ports but react slightly differently to port damage. Values are
in load points."


^^^^^ Solli has memorized the entire manual including page number refernces. :)

RE: How come...

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:48 pm
by Mike Solli
Uhh, no. I just happened to read that part looking for something completely different about 5 minutes before I saw this thread. [:D]

RE: How come...

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:43 pm
by Gommer
You aren't fooling anyone.

RE: How come...

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:48 am
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Gommer

You aren't fooling anyone.

I agree!

RE: How come...

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:25 am
by John Lansford
I can only get 1 sub to load troops at any given port at a time, no matter what the manual says.  The others just sit there and wait.  Of course, the only time I use subs for transport is after I've already lost air cover over the base, so that may have something to do with it.