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Air Icon Help

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:15 am
by Magpius
hi all,
I'm working on a unit mod for the upcoming 1.51 patch, and would like some help.
I'm looking for some good images that can be used as silhouettes for the air counters. (I'll stick with Nato icons for land units).
Tac Bomber
Strat Bomber
Fighter.
at the moment I have a mosquito, lancaster and spitfire graphic but would like to find others. posts or links appreciated.
ta

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:45 pm
by Tomokatu
Do you intend to use different aircraft in each category for the increasing tech levels?
eg Brit: Spitfire - Level 1
           Typhoon - Level 4
           Meteor - Level 5

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:05 pm
by doomtrader
This is what we have used (also with googled examples).


Germany:
fighters:
1 level - Arado Ar 68
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... rado+Ar+68
2 level - Messerschmitt Bf 109
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
3 level - Focke-Wulf Fw 190
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
4 level - Messerschmitt Me 262
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
5 level - Heinkel He 162
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w

strat:
Heinkel He 177
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w

tact:
lvl1 - Dornier Do 23
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl2 - Junkers Ju 87
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_87
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl3 - Dornier Do 217
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_217
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl4 - Junkers Ju 188
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_188
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl5 - Arado Ar 234
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arado_Ar_234
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=


Italy:
fighters:
Level 1 - Fiat CR.32
http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q= ... 2&aq=f&oq=
Level 2 - Fiat G.50
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w
Level 3 - Fiat G.55
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w
Level 4 - SAI 403 Dardo
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w
Level 5 - Caproni Ca.183 bis
http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&lr ... w&aq=f&oq=

strat:
Piaggio P.108
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w

tact:
lvl1 - Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 (nie ma nic lepszego :/)
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl2 - Fiat BR.20
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_BR.20
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl3 - CANT Z.1007 Alcione
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANT_Z.1007
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl4 - CANT Z.1018 Leone
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=

USA:
fighters:
1 level - Boeing P-26 Peashooter
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
2 level - Curtiss P-36 Hawk
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
3 level - Bell P-39 Airacobra
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
4 level - North American P-51 Mustang
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... 51+Mustang
5 level - North American FJ Fury
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w

strat:
Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... g+Fortress

tact:
lvl1 - Douglas Y1B-7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Y1B-7
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=
lvl2 - A-20 Havoc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-20_Havoc
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl3 - Douglas A-26 Invader
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-26_Invader
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=
lvl4 - North American B-25 Mitchell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Mitchell
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=
lvl5 - B-45 Tornado
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-45_Tornado
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=

UK:
fighters:
Level 1 - Gloster Gladiator
http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q= ... %B3w&gbv=2
Level 2 - Hawker Hurricane
http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q= ... %B3w&gbv=2
Level 3 - Spitfire Mk Vb
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w
Level 4 - Spitfire Mk IX
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... fire+Mk+IX
Level 5 - Gloster Meteor
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w

strat:
Avro Lancaster
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w

tact:
lvl1 - Hawker Hart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hart
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=
lvl2 - Fairey Battle
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Battle
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl3 - Handley Page Hampden
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handley_Page_Hampden
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=
lvl4 - de Havilland Mosquito
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=
lvl5 - English Electric Canberra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Canberra
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=

France:
fighters:
Level 1 - Dewoitine D.510
http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q= ... %B3w&gbv=2
Level 2 - Dewoitine D.520
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w
Level 3 - Arsenal VG-33
http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q= ... a=N&tab=wi
Level 4 - Arsenal VB 10
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w
Level 5 - Dassault Ouragan
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... raz%C3%B3w

strat:
Bloch MB.162
http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q= ... 2&aq=f&oq=

tact:
lvl1 - Potez 540
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl2 - Breguet 693
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breguet_693
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl3 - Lioré et Olivier LeO 45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lior%C3%A9 ... ier_LeO_45
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=

USSR:
fighters:
1 level - I-15bis
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
2 level - I-16
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
3 level - MiG-3
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w
4 level - Jak-9
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... 22Jak-9%22
5 level - MiG-15
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w

strat:
Pe-8
http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl= ... raz%C3%B3w

tact:
lvl1 - Po-2
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po-2
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=
lvl2 - Suchoj Su-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-2
http://images.google.pl/images?client=f ... 2&aq=f&oq=
lvl3 - Ił-2
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C5%82-2
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl4 - Tupolew Tu-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-2
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... w&aq=f&oq=
lvl5 - Iliuszyn Ił-28
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-28
http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl ... a=N&tab=wi


Hope this helps.

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:14 pm
by Hairog
Suggest US Level 3 P-38 Lightning. My favorite and the best fighter at the time. distinctive shape. Just an all around cool plane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-38_Lightning

The P-38 was the only American fighter aircraft in active production throughout the duration of American involvement in the war, from Pearl Harbor to VJ Day.

When you do the Pacific you must include the P-38 which was flown by America's Ace of Aces Dick Bong.

Go to the following if you want to download my 31 mission campaign following Bong's career. See if you can match his record of 40 kills. Bet you can't even against AI.

http://mission4today.com/index.php?name ... ils&id=898

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:32 pm
by Magpius
At this point I was only going to create a single set of generic silhouette air units to represent the three types.
It opens a tin of worms (arguments about plane strength levels etc), and turns a 3 unit mod into 15 individual unit mods, (just for air, excluding land) for EACH active country.
Essentially I was boiling it down to...
  • Single engine fighter
  • Dual engine tac fighter/ bomber
  • Quad engine strat. bomber
Also remember that the symbol resides on a COUNTER, I'm not into running miniatures on a map. (you will notice ALL the AAR's here are counters).
So the image will end up about 30x30 pixels.
I was after distinctive 'top view' profiles. Iconic shapes, spitfire, BF109e, Mosquito, Lancaster, B17 etc...

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:33 pm
by Magpius
@Doom,
wow[X(] &
thankyou
that list saves me a great deal of mouse clicking
very much appreciated.
A

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:56 am
by Hairog
Just a suggestion but there is no more iconic top down shilouette than the Forked Tailed Devil P-38 and the best fighter bomber of the war.

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:30 am
by Magpius
@Hairog
cool,
care to post said pic.
-A

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:11 pm
by Madmatt32162
Agent S,

I have a huge collection of excellent aircraft silhouettes which I have downloaded over the years. I would be happy to share them with you.
Two problems:

1. The folder is 572 megs, of course, if you can tell me exactly which types you want, I can just send those.

2. Most of the images are over 400 x 500 pixels, much too large for our purposes. If you have a way to reduce the image size and still keep the
images sharp and clear, then no problem. I have tried with ms paint and the results were not good.

Let me know if you are interested.


RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:47 pm
by Bleck
MS Paint is not very good for reducing size, IrfanView is much better and you can modify (resize, rename etc.) multiple files at once (Batch conversion) ;)

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:43 am
by Magpius
Thanks Madmat,
It maybe be overkill at this point! As posted above, I'm after (at this stage) just 3 generic icons to represent all countries.
Fighter-Tac Fighter/Bomber-Strat.Bomber. I've gone with Spitfire, Mosquito, and B17.
(Only for the simple reason, that I built and painted airfix models of each of these, and they hung from my ceiling for about 5 years.)
attached is a work in progress for the 1.51 patch. It will give you a sense of direction I'm going here.
trying to just "keep it simple'.


Image

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:47 am
by Magpius
The ships come via the brilliant mods being developed for war in the pacific.
(Those guys are insane...in a good way)[:D]

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:43 pm
by Uxbridge
Looks nice, Agent. I will wait until the patch is out, cause I can't calculate the things as you do. I draw and check, draw and check. And for that I need the game.

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:37 pm
by Magpius
The draw sits within the mask image provided by bleck.
The graphic part is finished.
I use the .csv file for image location and size tweaking. (back and forth, reload, text tweak reload...)
But until the patch is released...we wait!

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:44 pm
by Hairog
My goodness those are 30 by 30? Excellent work.

RE: Air Icon Help

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:15 am
by Magpius
H.,
possibly a little bigger.[;)]
as I said, I use the  appearance.csv file to size and locate the components into a composite graphic in the game.
So really, the images could theoretically be much bigger. .png's scale quite nicely.
regards
A