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History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:12 am
by Sheytan
Unsolved Mystery?
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Why DID Japan attack the USA at Pearl Harbor?

The Japanese invasion of China was the leading cause of deteriorating relations between

Japan and the USA.

Eventually these feelings translated into the USA leading an international movement to

isolate Japan economically and thus force them to withdraw from China. Primarily the USA

plan was to cut off credit to the Japanese which would prevent them from being able to

purchase petroleum. Japan received petroleum (an absolutely vital economic and military

commodity, then as it is now) from three sources: The USA, Dutch east indies (Indonesia) and

Burma (British controlled in the 1940's). The USA inspired movement included all three

sources.

Japan could/would not accept a withdrawal from the Chinese war and instead began planning a

first strike against the USA navy. Eliminating or reducing the USA naval forces in the

Pacific would make the Japanese navy paramount, and thus Japan would be able to defeat the

economic consequences of the USA ultimatum. After eliminating the USA navy Japan planned to

occupy the Dutch East Indies and Burma, thus gaining control of enough oil to run their

military and economy.

The strike on Pearl Harbor did exactly as hoped by the Japanese. The USA fleet was crippled.

The Dutch lacked forces to repel the Japanese. The British navy (as ordered by Churchill)

sent forces to defend their areas but these were totally inadequate for the job and were

decimated quickly. Japan occupied all the oil producing areas and settled down to a war of

attrition against the USA, which they hoped would wear down the USA politically and enable

them to keep their conquests.

Debunking the Myth?
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Professor Demens Decipio from the University of Asian Studys in Dolus asserts this is MYTH!

In fact his research has led him to conclusive evidence that the basis of the war was never

oil, but rather Soy.

As you know Soy sauce is produced by fermenting soybeans with the molds Aspergillus oryzae

and Aspergillus soyae along with roasted grain, water, and salt. Soy sauce was invented in

China, where it has been used as a condiment for close to 2,500 years.

Buddhist monks introduced soy sauce into Japan in the 7th century, where it is known as

"shôyu". The Japanese word "tamari" is derived from the verb "tamaru" that signifies "to

accumulate", referring to the fact that tamari was traditionally from the liquid byproduct

produced during the fermentation of miso.

Although there are many types of soy sauce, all are salty and "earthy"-tasting brownish

liquids used to season food while cooking or at the table. Soy sauce has a distinct basic

taste called umami by the Japanese (literally "delicious taste").

Such was the importance of Soy sauce to the Japanese that none other then the Emperor Meiji

issued a edict to discover its unique properties. Umami was first identified as a basic

taste in 1908 by Kikunae Ikeda of the Tokyo Imperial University. The free glutamates which

naturally occur in soy sauce are what give it this taste quality.

Motives
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The Emperor Meiji was a product of his times the Professor asserts, when Shogun Tokugawa

Yoshinobu was finally defeated and Prince Mutsuhito became Emperor Meiji in 1868 he was

considerably influenced by the events of his time.

Droughts, famine, rebellion all played a part in shaping the psyche of the young Emperor.

According to the Professor Soy was sublime to the boy Emperor, and a important part of the

religion of the Empire.

So much so says the Professor that the event know as Setsubun which traditionally marked the

change of one season to the next was celebrated in Shinto Shrines, the official religion

under the Meiji restoration, as well as Buddist Temples. The act of Mamemaki was performed

(literally “bean toss”) which is thought to symbolically cleanse the home (a form of

spiritual spring cleaning).

The head of the home (traditionally the father) will don a fierce ogre (oni) mask while

family members toss soy beans at him while chanting oni wa soto fuku wa uchi which roughly

translates as ”out with bad luck and in with good”. In the past when Japanese families were

often quite large the role of the oni would be played by the household toshiotoko,

identified as the male family member who was born on the same animal year in accordance with

the Chinese calendar.

The Emperor Meiji was greatly influenced by Hiderigami ("god of drought"). This is a

mythical species of yôkai in Japanese folklore that holds the power to cause droughts

according to the Professor.

The Emperor Meiji impressed these beliefs upon his son, Yoshihito. According to the

Professor these beliefs were passed through the family line to Emperor Shôwa, better known

to the western world as Emperor Hirohito.

Conclusion
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According to the Professor the War against China was nothing more then a religious

imperative that compelled the Emperor Hirohito to provide Soy for his subjects.

With a rapidly increasing population, and the ever present Hiderigami lurking in the

recesses of his mind, he was, according to the Professor compelled to seek out and conquer

lands abundant in Soy.

According to the Professor oil was incidental, and was not the motive for war. But rather

incidental to the obsession for Soy which led Emperor Hirohito into China. Ironically it was

from China it came 2,500 years earlier.


Myth or History? You be the Judge.

Was the Emperor obsessed with Soy?







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RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:17 am
by Graymane
A great example of the underlying problem of the publish or perish mentality in academia and the ability of just about anyone to get a PhD today.

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:19 am
by Mike Scholl
Truely a "tongue-in-cheak" masterpiece! Reminds me of a theory I heard from a prof in college..., the "Dietary Theory of the French Revolution". Seems the average diet of the French peasant in the 1780's was 4 pounds of bread a day (when they could get it). He challanged each of us to try living on 4 1-lb loaves of bread a a day for the next week, and see if we didn't feel like revolting as well....

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:24 am
by Sheytan
Bravo![;)]
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

Truely a "tongue-in-cheak" masterpiece! Reminds me of a theory I heard from a prof in college..., the "Dietary Theory of the French Revolution". Seems the average diet of the French peasant in the 1780's was 4 pounds of bread a day (when they could get it). He challanged each of us to try living on 4 1-lb loaves of bread a a day for the next week, and see if we didn't feel like revolting as well....

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:25 am
by Bo Rearguard
Ahhh. The real power behind the throne....

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RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:25 am
by jjax
ORIGINAL: Graymane

A great example of the underlying problem of the publish or perish mentality in academia and the ability of just about anyone to get a PhD today.

Pardon me? I take a lot of offense to that comment!

Obviously you do not have Phd or have ever come close to earning one. If you did, you would know the work and sacrifice one must give in order to obtain one. In other words, not just anyone can get one, an accredited one that is.

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:26 am
by DuckofTindalos
Riiiiight... And it's not like they don't publish crap to get it.

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:37 am
by Valgua
ORIGINAL: jjax

ORIGINAL: Graymane

A great example of the underlying problem of the publish or perish mentality in academia and the ability of just about anyone to get a PhD today.

Pardon me? I take a lot of offense to that comment!

Obviously you do not have Phd or have ever come close to earning one. If you did, you would know the work and sacrifice one must give in order to obtain one. In other words, not just anyone can get one, an accredited one that is.

I concur.

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:38 am
by keeferon01
ORIGINAL: jjax

ORIGINAL: Graymane

A great example of the underlying problem of the publish or perish mentality in academia and the ability of just about anyone to get a PhD today.

Pardon me? I take a lot of offense to that comment!

Obviously you do not have Phd or have ever come close to earning one. If you did, you would know the work and sacrifice one must give in order to obtain one. In other words, not just anyone can get one, an accredited one that is.



ahhahaahhahaah he's just a Iron, now if you just move a few miles across London to Chelsea there you will find more academic brethren lining the terraces .

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:46 am
by Sheytan
Gentlemen! Lets be civil, I did not intend to incite a arguement among you by posting this.

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:17 am
by Canoerebel
WitP:AE, version III, patch 2.6735551 may be so intricate that production and transportion of soy will be part of the game, as will asparagus, tin, fertilizer, ball bearings, and kumquats.

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:21 am
by Sheytan
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

WitP:AE, version III, patch 2.6735551 may be so intricate that production and transportion of soy will be part of the game, as will asparagus, tin, fertilizer, ball bearings, and kumquats.
[:D]

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:33 am
by Tophat1815
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

WitP:AE, version III, patch 2.6735551 may be so intricate that production and transportion of soy will be part of the game, as will asparagus, tin, fertilizer, ball bearings, and kumquats.

Gentlemen,there is a kumquat gap!

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:34 am
by fbs

I COMPLETELY disagree with Professor Decipio's arguments.

Yamamoto was known as a progressive thinker, and in order to counter the Army's influence of Soy Sauce with the Emperor, he sent spies all over the world to look for new alternatives in 1941. That was found in San Bernardino's recently opened MacDonald's restaurant.

His spy's report was so impressive that Yamamoto requested an audience with the Emperor and showed him the menu. Hirohito was deeply curious, but thought that diplomatic channels would be ineffective for obtaining him an actual sample. So he asked Yamamoto: "Isoroku, where be the nearest place where we can find such resources?". Yamamoto answered: "Oahu, Excellency". "Then, Yamamoto", said Hirohito, "go get me a Big Mac from Oahu, and use whatever means you feel necessary".

People just miss the "coincidence" of opening the first MacDonald's restaurant in 1940, and the attack in Pearl Harbor -- in the very next year!!

These are the myths and mysteries of history. Cheers! [:D]
fbs

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:41 am
by Sheytan
LOL! Was there really a micky D's in Oahu in 1940? I sense a conspiracy here...why wasnt I told!

[:D]
ORIGINAL: fbs


I COMPLETELY disagree with Professor Decipio's arguments.

Yamamoto was known as a progressive thinker, and in order to counter the Army's influence of Soy Sauce with the Emperor, he sent spies all over the world to look for new alternatives in 1941. That was found in San Bernardino's recently opened MacDonald's restaurant.

His spy's report was so impressive that Yamamoto requested an audience with the Emperor and showed him the menu. Hirohito was deeply curious, but thought that diplomatic channels would be ineffective for obtaining him an actual sample. So he asked Yamamoto: "Isoroku, where be the nearest place where we can find such resources?". Yamamoto answered: "Oahu, Excellency". "Then, Yamamoto", said Hirohito, "go get me a Big Mac from Oahu, and use whatever means you feel necessary".

People just miss the "coincidence" of opening the first MacDonald's restaurant in 1940, and the attack in Pearl Harbor -- in the very next year!!

These are the myths and mysteries of history. Cheers! [:D]
fbs

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:46 am
by USSAmerica
I love Kikkoman! [8D]

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:51 am
by jjax
Well I am not trying to defend the original article. I'm sure most people in this forum know much more about the history of the pacific war than I do. I'll take your word that its a little off.

I am just asking you to try to avoid over generalizations. Not every academic publishes cold fusion articles!

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:53 am
by Houtje
uhmmmm, I'm sure all have noticed that this is a joke, right?

"Prof. Demens Decipio of Dolus University"

Demens = 'crazy', 'demented'
Decipio = 'to mislead'
Dolus = 'deception',

in Latin, that is.

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:54 am
by fbs
ORIGINAL: Sheytan

LOL! Was there really a micky D's in Oahu in 1940? I sense a conspiracy here...why wasnt I told!

[:D]


Yeah, that was done by the 5th mini-submarine, the one that was never found. Naive people think it was sunk somewhere -- but the insider's know about the *real* mission of the 5th mini-submarine. A hint: its most secret device was a special lunchbox with the Chrisanthemum Crest.

Cheers [:D]
fbs

RE: History or Myth?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:58 am
by Sheytan
ROFL!
ORIGINAL: fbs

ORIGINAL: Sheytan

LOL! Was there really a micky D's in Oahu in 1940? I sense a conspiracy here...why wasnt I told!

[:D]


Yeah, that was done by the 5th mini-submarine, the one that was never found. Naive people think it was sunk somewhere -- but the insider's know about the *real* mission of the 5th mini-submarine. A hint: its most secret device was a special lunchbox with the Chrisanthemum Crest.

Cheers [:D]
fbs