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Shipping in India

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:50 am
by cantona2
Is it still worth sending all the longer ranger merchants in India to Aden, Cape Town and Abadan? These ports seem to be the main resupply/reinforcement heads of the allies.

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:14 pm
by rockmedic109
Abadan is for fuel.  Some supplies, but mainly fuel.
 
Aden needs APs.  That is the entry point for LCUs.
 
Cape Town will need AKs and TKs as a convoy comes in bringing supplies and fuel.
 
Looking at the shipping in India, it may have too much shipping.  Might need to send some to the west coast.

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:18 pm
by Smeulders
Maybe use some AKs for fuel runs from Cape Town to Australia. It might not be efficient, but you have a lot of them.

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:32 pm
by dasboot1960
ORIGINAL: rockmedic109

Abadan is for fuel.  Some supplies, but mainly fuel.

Aden needs APs.  That is the entry point for LCUs.

Cape Town will need AKs and TKs as a convoy comes in bringing supplies and fuel.

Looking at the shipping in India, it may have too much shipping.  Might need to send some to the west coast.
Abadan is for fuel. Some supplies, but mainly fuel.

Aden needs APs. That is the entry point for LCUs.



What he said....... definitkey no need to send any from Aus. IMHO they should all go east, even those from Perth.

Cape Town will need AKs and TKs as a convoy comes in bringing supplies and fuel.

Looking at the shipping in India, it may have too much shipping. Might need to send some to the west coast

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:53 pm
by cantona2
Thanks

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:15 pm
by Sheytan
The legs have a good time factor, I have actually found I need more APs in Aden as opposed to having too many. I do note I have about 60 AKs parked in Capetown however, but the supply runs to AUS are long transit times as well, so having a big pool waiting to move the goods foreward isnt a bad deal.

I used all the shipping from AUS westward to effect portage of troops and supplies from the west coast and to move troops in the south and central pacific. I dont have much sitting in ports now waiting to ship out, and im at 2/42 now.

Fact im lifting a full divison to Suva atm [:)]
ORIGINAL: rockmedic109

Abadan is for fuel.  Some supplies, but mainly fuel.

Aden needs APs.  That is the entry point for LCUs.

Cape Town will need AKs and TKs as a convoy comes in bringing supplies and fuel.

Looking at the shipping in India, it may have too much shipping.  Might need to send some to the west coast.

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:12 am
by Jim D Burns
In India I keep all the 4000 endurance AKs at Calcutta to make supply and fuel runs between Calcutta and Rangoon. The 6000 endurance ships I use for needs along the west coast of India/Ceylon. Everything else goes to off map boxes based on needs.

In Australia, I use 6k endurance ships for routine needs and 4k endurance ships for risky runs into Port Moresby or other front line bases. Everything else goes to the West Coast.

The 6k endurance stuff at the west coast handles supply and fuel runs to the islands along Canada and Alaska. 10k - 11k endurance vessels make my Central Pacific and Pearl runs along with most of my AOs, since I don't want to risk the AOs on long range runs. Everything else heads out on the long haul runs to the South and Southwest pacific.

Jim

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:03 am
by John Lansford
Make sure you set your TF's at Aden to "load troops only", or you'll quickly drain that base of fuel and supplies.  I've had to actually send loaded TF's to Aden from Karachi to restock the base after I didn't notice my TF's were loading supplies and refueling there. 

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:05 pm
by FOW
Yeah I drained Aden of fuel. I now have a regular run of 4 small TKs from Abadan to Aden to stock fuel for the hungry APs. Abadan fuel stocks are 800k+ by late Feb 42. I can't load and ship it out fast enough, not enough TKs and large 5500/6400 AKs.

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:30 pm
by crsutton
Really the little AKLs are priceless for unloading supplies and level one and two ports.

RE: Shipping in India

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:46 pm
by Central Blue
I am approaching the end of March vs. AI.

It is quite easy to drain Capetown between convoys. The solution I learned late is to send all of the cargo vessels with endurance in the 11k to 12k range, and speed under 14 knots, to the east coast. They have sufficient legs to reach Capetown, at least until the next patch. You can also fuel Capetown with the 8k endurance tankers.

The fuel chain works fine if you run the 8k's between Abadan and Colombo, and the 12k's between Colombo and Perth. Considering that the bulk of your new tankers show up in Abadan, this is not hard to get going. You can even refuel Auckland from Perth with an 8k endurance tanker. Refueling other ports in Australia from coastwise tanker trade is not a problem if you got the little ones out of DEI and they have ASW assets to protect them. This would not likely work so well against a human opponent. And it may be problematic against the AI once he finishes taking Java.

By that time, I will have sufficient numbers of the fast 16 knot tankers running special convoys from the West Coast, and a few of the long-legged, large deadweight types running from Cristobal to my South Pacific hubs.

Who cares about all of that naval warfare? I've got a merchant marine to run.