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ORIGINAL: Historiker

1engined bombers:
They aren't useless! You just have to find a proper use for them! As they just have one engine, they only cost half of the 2e bomber. Hence loosing them isn't that grave. Their smaller bombload can consequently also be viewed differently. They usually are also easier to maintain and can fly from smaller airfields.
Consequently, their primary missions are on map training by the training function (ops losses hurt less) and secondary bomb roles. For instance bombing chinese guerilla units behind the front, you want to use your first line bombers elsewhere. They may also be usefull for "test bombing", e.g. to find out how much CAP leaps to the intended target or how heavy the AA fire is. There's no need to risk more expensive bombers for this mission.

Lilly:
At least in witp - not tested here, yet - more bombs were better than fewer but bigger to close down airfields. They also have a higher chance to hit, so they can be more effective against target without armour. Last but not least you always have to consider the engine production and manually factory changes. If the bomber inteded to be built instead needs a more critical engine, a weaker bomber can be better. Also: changing the production means damaged engine factories and aircraft factories. They have to be repaired at horrible costs. You'll have at least as good things to spend supply for, e.g. for expanding some HI factories on Formosa or so.

Nell:
The nell will have radar somewhen. She doesn#t have it from the start. But as the Nell isn't that inferior to the Betty, I'll keep producing it until I can afford to change the production to a better plane. Her radar will be usefull for ASW duty, but there are plenty of other planes that are cheaper and can carry radar as well. At least, the radar won't make Nells in pool useless when you don't use them in frontline service any more.

ORIGINAL: Historiker

1engined bombers:
They aren't useless! You just have to find a proper use for them! As they just have one engine, they only cost half of the 2e bomber. Hence loosing them isn't that grave. Their smaller bombload can consequently also be viewed differently. They usually are also easier to maintain and can fly from smaller airfields. They also need less supplies for flying missions.
Consequently, their primary missions are on map training by the training function (ops losses hurt less) and secondary bomb roles. For instance bombing chinese guerilla units behind the front, you want to use your first line bombers elsewhere. They may also be usefull for "test bombing", e.g. to find out how much CAP leaps to the intended target or how heavy the AA fire is. There's no need to risk more expensive bombers for this mission.

Lilly:
At least in witp - not tested here, yet - more bombs were better than fewer but bigger to close down airfields. They also have a higher chance to hit, so they can be more effective against target without armour. Last but not least you always have to consider the engine production and manually factory changes. If the bomber inteded to be built instead needs a more critical engine, a weaker bomber can be better. Also: changing the production means damaged engine factories and aircraft factories. They have to be repaired at horrible costs. You'll have at least as good things to spend supply for, e.g. for expanding some HI factories on Formosa or so.

Nell:
The nell will have radar somewhen. She doesn#t have it from the start. But as the Nell isn't that inferior to the Betty, I'll keep producing it until I can afford to change the production to a better plane. Her radar will be usefull for ASW duty, but there are plenty of other planes that are cheaper and can carry radar as well. At least, the radar won't make Nells in pool useless when you don't use them in frontline service any more.

Morning Air attack on Georgetown , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Moderate rain


Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 58



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAP Kelantan, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Hong Siang, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Wing Sang, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Nam Yong, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ellenga, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Demosthenes, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
HDML Pennigat, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML Panji, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk



Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
31 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Caliban is correct.  Note one difference from WitP though.  You don't need enough planes to fill out the entire unit.  Since the pilots come from the pool, you don't "lose" pilots if you don't have enough airframes to fill out the unit.

ORIGINAL: tigercub

Lily changes from level bomber to dive bomber in early 43 so i keep her on for a little bit.


Tiger!