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Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:15 pm
by Q-Ball
KB is at Truk, and my torp sorties ain't replenishing.

Truk has 100K+ Supplies, Size-6 port
Over 350+ Nav Support here (2 Naval HQ)
Tried docking CV's individually, no replenish; so it's not because I can't dock

Am I missing something? Manual sez size-6 port needs 160 Nav support for size-6 port to rearm (pg. 288). Right?

Side Note: My Zeros are taking a beating over Luzon. I have been getting licks in, but it's not pretty. I am sweeping at 20K ft., opponent has P-40s set to 12 or 15K CAP. Generally, looks like about 2-1, sometimes better, sometimes worse. Is this what others are experiencing?

If so, it's going to be a long war for the Zero units!

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:10 pm
by erstad
Two things to check:

Are the naval HQs in combat mode? Only combat mode helps.

Look at the base screen, and see if you see the naval squads. If not, there is a bug where some of the HQs aren't adding their naval support. I believe it's the command HQs.
EDIT: From a post JWE made today, this bug *may* be a display issue only. In which case it wouldn't be a source of your problem.


RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:32 pm
by n01487477
QBall,
see here... tm.asp?m=2247293

Looks like patch 2, as well as having support in place

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:35 am
by Q-Ball
Thanks guys, plenty of Nav Support, and it's in Combat Mode.

Must be patch 2 issue, I should be getting torps....I'll try a disband, otherwise it will have to be bombs. Would the presence of an AIR HQ make a difference?

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:41 am
by n01487477
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Thanks guys, plenty of Nav Support, and it's in Combat Mode.

Must be patch 2 issue, I should be getting torps....I'll try a disband, otherwise it will have to be bombs. Would the presence of an AIR HQ make a difference?
Would the presence of an AIR HQ make a difference?

I thought this was the only repository of torps avail ??? Still I'm not speaking from game experience[&:] ... too much Tracker work unfortunately.

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:47 pm
by Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: n01487477

Would the presence of an AIR HQ make a difference?

I thought this was the only repository of torps avail ??? Still I'm not speaking from game experience[&:] ... too much Tracker work unfortunately.

Manual is silent if this is necessary; however, I think it may be the problem.

A few days ago, I did replenish CVs at Truk successfully. Since then, I moved the AIR HQ there to Rabaul. I have another AIR HQ about to land at Truk; I'll see soon if that's the difference. If it is, good to know for future reference.

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:04 pm
by P.Hausser
use size 7 port

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:33 am
by Streptokok
I had the same problem, even on Palau with mini KB. I just left my TFs in the port until I could bring all those support ships in hope they will help (I dont know wich so I sent all of those AS,AG,AGP,AE,AKE...).
But before they arrived next turn while my TF was in the port sitting there (dont even think they were docked?) they "refueled" everything, including torps spare planes etc...
So maybe just leave them one turn in port and see if they reload it?

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:32 am
by vlcz
For the HQ torpedoes, I just realized that some times it will deplete and you have to by MANUALLY new torps for them (btw in max 10 intervals), dont know if this is only in low-value ports.

And a question on your side note about zeros , do you see combat animations? I am discovering that result shown in them are much better than the ones showed in the operational report, at least to airfield attacks

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:21 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: n01487477
I thought this was the only repository of torps avail ??? Still I'm not speaking from game experience[&:] ... too much Tracker work unfortunately.
Naval Support squads help rearm carrier sorties and carrier torpedo sorties. Torpedoes for land-based aircraft are supplied by Air HQs or appropriate Base Forces that have a "Torpedo Ordnance" device. They are different.
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
Must be patch 2 issue, I should be getting torps....I'll try a disband, otherwise it will have to be bombs. Would the presence of an AIR HQ make a difference?
No.

One more time; there is a blivet with proper capture, display and use of NavSup squads in Naval HQ LCUs. This has been addressed for patch-2.

In the meantime, use Eng-type LCUs that include NavSup squads; those work properly. Or go to a bigger port. Or use amunition tenders.

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:53 pm
by Xargun
Just convert an AKE and you are fine - thats what I did for Truk. Also gives me the ability to rearm ships away from Truk when / if the need arises.

Xargun

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:20 pm
by Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: Xargun

Just convert an AKE and you are fine - thats what I did for Truk. Also gives me the ability to rearm ships away from Truk when / if the need arises.

Xargun

Thanks JWE for feedback. I converted several AKEs turn one, just takes awhile to complete and deploy them. But they will be very useful ships.

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:19 am
by erstad
ORIGINAL: JWE
In the meantime, use Eng-type LCUs that include NavSup squads; those work properly. Or go to a bigger port. Or use amunition tenders.

Um, I thought there was also an issue with AKEs rearming torpedo sorties? I posted a save on this and someone (I think Don, I can find the post if needed) confirmed it as a bug.

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:47 pm
by Streptokok
The bug was only with AKE or same thing goes for AE ?

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:23 am
by erstad
Don't have any AEs so I can't say for sure

Here's what don had said in a PM
TF1 (as an example, there's another TF there behaving the same way). Won't reload torpedo sorties. Manual says torpedoes are a 1500 rearm cost; the AKE has a capacity of 4900 and is an appropriate tender type.

Yes, looks like an issue specifically related to carrier torpedoes.

RE: Another RTFM Manual--Hemajor stay out

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:53 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: erstad
Um, I thought there was also an issue with AKEs rearming torpedo sorties? I posted a save on this and someone (I think Don, I can find the post if needed) confirmed it as a bug.
No - it had nothing to do with rearming anything specifically. There were some burps in the tender rearm thing - totally fixed in patch-2. But, we're rearming everything now - it just takes some fiddling.