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December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:06 pm
by JWE
For those of you playing the 12/08/41 scenarios, we have found a way to include the Arizona and Oklahoma in the sunk ship list, and allocate victory points for them. This is just for the ships. It is not for the planes, or anything else.
For patch-2, Arizona and Oklahoma will appear at turn start, but will have 98-99 damage for all fields, including fires. They are guaranteed to sink during turn execution, no matter what you do, so you will get the listing and the points.
Another tweak for patch-2 is that plane sorties, torp sorties and fuel for the KB have been arbitrarily depleted.
Think the 12/08/41 scenarios are going to look pretty sweet for them as don't want to play the 'how many BBs or planes did I lose - and would it be real' psycho historico babbelo lunacio stuffacicato things.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:14 pm
by Walloc
Thanks,
Rasmus
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:16 pm
by witpqs
John I know this is slightly off topic, but will the decrease in KB fuel be applied to the Dec 7 aka scenario 1?
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:52 pm
by Q-Ball
Where is Force Z on Dec 8th? Steaming toward it's date with destiny still?
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:54 pm
by Walloc
It is as that now, but u can change their orders before they move aka save em.
Kind regards,
Rasmus
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:59 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: witpqs
John I know this is slightly off topic, but will the decrease in KB fuel be applied to the Dec 7 aka scenario 1?
Unfortunately, no. Sigh ... there's a bit of a hierarchical structure going on. Scen001 is THE scenario; any tweaks to scen001 requires my winkie laid out on the table with Joe and Erik wielding cleavers, to whack it off, if it ain't good. This is the serious Matrix scen, and I ain't gonna put Mr Willie on Mr Table unless I am guaranteed imortality.
'Kay, scen002 is an AndyMac specific Jap enhancement, that's supported by the scen001 class files. Andy's a bud and we break out balls making it happen for him. But Mr Willie doesn't have to go on Mr Table.
Scens 003, 4 and 5, belong to Joe, Nik and Terminus. They rule.
Scen006 is my only baby. It's based on scen001, so I can't get too innovative, but with respect to what I can do, I'll do what I can.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:03 pm
by witpqs
Thanks.
[:D]
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:07 pm
by Mike Solli
What's scenario 6, John?
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:18 pm
by USSAmerica
It's the "Keep Mr. Willie in your pants" scenario. [:'(]
(December 8th start, based on Scenario 1 [;)])
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:58 pm
by Marty A
Why not add points to tokyo for ships and planes like other game? witp december 8 has 600 more points for japan control of tokyo than in december 7 game. seems easier than fooling around with ships sinking and things.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:28 pm
by Veer
wWhy not add points to tokyo for ships and planes like other game? witp december 8 has 600 more points for japan control of tokyo than in december 7 game. seems easier than fooling around with ships sinking and things.
Because this is what they want:
we have found a way to include the Arizona and Oklahoma in the sunk ship list
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:34 pm
by Marty A
ORIGINAL: Veer
wWhy not add points to tokyo for ships and planes like other game? witp december 8 has 600 more points for japan control of tokyo than in december 7 game. seems easier than fooling around with ships sinking and things.
Because this is what they want:
we have found a way to include the Arizona and Oklahoma in the sunk ship list
And this is what they leave out by want instead of doing smart:
This is just for the ships. It is not for the planes, or anything else.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:53 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: Marty A
Why not add points to tokyo for ships and planes like other game? witp december 8 has 600 more points for japan control of tokyo than in december 7 game. seems easier than fooling around with ships sinking and things.
Well pardon the hell out of me for trying, when there's trash mouth idiots out there that know so much better. Thanks to you, nothing will be done, unless I get a code block saying how it is to be done. Everyone keeps saying how easy it is, and how stupid we are, so here's your chance. Have a nice day. [:)]
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:47 pm
by Mark VII
Nevermind "Marty A"!!!
I think these are great little tweaks especially the KB sorties. Its funny, a couple of days ago was looking at the killed ship list and thought that it was to bad that my Jap opponent was missing out on those VP's from Arizona and Oklahoma.
Keep up the good work[&o].............terry
ORIGINAL: JWE
For those of you playing the 12/08/41 scenarios, we have found a way to include the Arizona and Oklahoma in the sunk ship list, and allocate victory points for them. This is just for the ships. It is not for the planes, or anything else.
For patch-2, Arizona and Oklahoma will appear at turn start, but will have 98-99 damage for all fields, including fires. They are guaranteed to sink during turn execution, no matter what you do, so you will get the listing and the points.
Another tweak for patch-2 is that plane sorties, torp sorties and fuel for the KB have been arbitrarily depleted.
Think the 12/08/41 scenarios are going to look pretty sweet for them as don't want to play the 'how many BBs or planes did I lose - and would it be real' psycho historico babbelo lunacio stuffacicato things.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:21 am
by stuman
ORIGINAL: USS America
It's the "Keep Mr. Willie in your pants" scenario. [:'(]
(December 8th start, based on Scenario 1 [;)])
" It's the 'Keep Mr. Willie in your pants' scenario. "
Boy have I heard that before .
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:45 am
by Marty A
ORIGINAL: JWE
ORIGINAL: Marty A
Why not add points to tokyo for ships and planes like other game? witp december 8 has 600 more points for japan control of tokyo than in december 7 game. seems easier than fooling around with ships sinking and things.
Well pardon the hell out of me for trying, when there's trash mouth idiots out there that know so much better. Thanks to you, nothing will be done, unless I get a code block saying how it is to be done. Everyone keeps saying how easy it is, and how stupid we are, so here's your chance. Have a nice day. [:)]
This is name calling no? you are a dev yes? mod punish devs for name calling? doubt so. i say what witp do. game out of box. if that bad why is it out of box that way? why you try to make better and not do so. i say simple to make like old game you call me names. only your think mean something every one that does not think like you is bad people. i pity them that work with you.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:51 am
by witpqs
Marty, with your two posts above - John was much kinder than you deserve.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:04 am
by pmelheck1
I must say I'm very happy about the ships sinking. To me these were some of the first losses of the war and I always looked for them and it irked me that they were missing as they WERE sunk during the attack. As an allied player i'm not so much concerned with the points as their inclusion as ships that were lost during the war.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:27 am
by Marty A
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Marty, with your two posts above - John was much kinder than you deserve.
Maybe yes maybe no on point of view. no excuse for name calling in anyway. all i say is old game add 600 to tokyo and this makes up for december 7 losses and he calls me names because his think only account for 2 ships sink. no excuse for anyone name calling on this maybe more for dev no? dev think should be open to new ideas no? is his? seems not to me.
RE: December 8 Scenario
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:33 am
by Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Marty, with your two posts above - John was much kinder than you deserve.
This is name calling no? you are a dev yes? mod punish devs for name calling? doubt so. i say what witp do. game out of box. if that bad why is it out of box that way? why you try to make better and not do so. i say simple to make like old game you call me names. only your think mean something every one that does not think like you is bad people. i pity them that work with you.
While I basically agree with
witpqs, I also think that the quote above pretty much proves that "Marty" is not a native English speaker. What he said that caused John offense may not have been what he was trying to say, or meant to say. However the tirade above has pretty much ended any chance of anyone ever taking anything he says seriously again... [8|]