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Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:20 am
by vinnie71
The manual states that if the Japanese either landed on the US, Australia or penetrated into India, the allies would receive substantial reinforcements. Anybody knows what sort of reinforcements are we talking about? Are these troops that are already in the arrival list and will just arrive before or is there a different set of forces available to the allies? if it is the latter does anyone know the name of the forces in question?

As for the Japanese, this only happens if the allies invade Vietnam only, right?

tnx in advace

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:52 am
by Iron Duke

slots 7959-7989 in the editor for details
these are units you don't get normally
us invasion
1xarm div
2xmot div
1xinf div
2xtank bde

india
5xinf div
1xarm div

australia
2xinf div
1xarm bde
1xpara bde
1xAA bde
1xinf bde
1xarm/cav regt

NZ
1xINF DIV
3xinf bde
2xtank bde
1xcav regt
1xinf bn

also all get a one off influx of devices called 'invasion mobilstn'

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:37 pm
by scott64
ORIGINAL: Offworlder

As for the Japanese, this only happens if the allies invade Vietnam only, right?

tnx in advace

3 or 4 Vietnamese Divisions as at 1/3 strength. [:)]

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:40 pm
by NormS3
Are there withdrawl dates for these units?

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:12 pm
by Mistmatz
ORIGINAL: Norm3

Are there withdrawl dates for these units?


Not needed, they will be destroyed by the invaders. [:D]

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:18 pm
by vinnie71
WoW! [X(]

In the case of the Aussies, Indians and NZ are they militia grade units or regulars?

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:23 pm
by Andy Mac
Some have withdrawal dates some are accelerations of late war units some just stay when they arrive.
 
Most usefull units of the lot are the ones marked invasion mobilidsations as they flech out other units

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:24 pm
by Andy Mac
e.g. one of the Australian Divs is the 9th Aus Div that arrives early (but at Aden).
 
You need to rewmember these forces need to be shipped to their destination.
 
One of the Indian Forces is the Waziristan Frontier Div so that is rear echelon troops.
 
Andy
 

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:36 pm
by NormS3
Thanks Andy.

One more -Does the no withdrawls option affect them as it does regular units?

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:48 pm
by Andy Mac
yes

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:53 pm
by Dobey455
The Australian forces are the same as the Indian ones in that they are triggered by invading beyond a certain point (in this case I believe it is south of Brisbane) so a limited invasion of northern Australia is still possible. In the case of NZ and the US I think ANY invasion triggers these forces.

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:40 pm
by khyberbill
e.g. one of the Australian Divs is the 9th Aus Div that arrives early (but at Aden).

You need to rewmember these forces need to be shipped to their destination.

One of the Indian Forces is the Waziristan Frontier Div so that is rear echelon troops.

Andy
If I recall correctly what I read in past posts, the Japanese can take Colombo, Bombay, Karachi and all ports in between without invoking the influx of additional troops. If the Japanese then advance on Delhi, invoking the surge, it appears to me that getting troops from Aden is difficult with Bettys in Karachi and Bombay. Can the troops be moved from Aden to UK and then Capetown?

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:11 pm
by Dobey455
ORIGINAL: khyberbill
e.g. one of the Australian Divs is the 9th Aus Div that arrives early (but at Aden).

You need to rewmember these forces need to be shipped to their destination.

One of the Indian Forces is the Waziristan Frontier Div so that is rear echelon troops.

Andy
If I recall correctly what I read in past posts, the Japanese can take Colombo, Bombay, Karachi and all ports in between without invoking the influx of additional troops. If the Japanese then advance on Delhi, invoking the surge, it appears to me that getting troops from Aden is difficult with Bettys in Karachi and Bombay. Can the troops be moved from Aden to UK and then Capetown?

By the time they got to Capetown there'd be nothing left to defend.

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:23 pm
by dude
ORIGINAL: scott1964

ORIGINAL: Offworlder

As for the Japanese, this only happens if the allies invade Vietnam only, right?

tnx in advace

3 or 4 Vietnamese Divisions as at 1/3 strength. [:)]


The interesting thing is that 8.3.5 states that it's entry into Indo-China by Chinese units... while 8.8 does not specify and just says Allied units.... so which is it? Any Allied unit or just Chinese units?


RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:34 pm
by khyberbill
By the time they got to Capetown there'd be nothing left to defend.
Yes.

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:11 pm
by Andy Mac
A couple of points
 
I think its Chinese and Allied
Japan also gets emrgancty reinforcements on an invasion of the HI
Allied reinforcements in India arrive if a line paralell to Delhi is crossed so an attack on karachi would trigger them
 

RE: Emergency forces

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:01 pm
by khyberbill
Allied reinforcements in India arrive if a line paralell to Delhi is crossed so an attack on karachi would trigger them
What are the actual hex numbers that invoke the additional deployments?