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Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:32 am
by Socialist


Greetings and salutations,

The new update to game is very nice indeed but it was noted that the rounding of strength factors was to be optional and I have yet to find how to place it back to partial ..10ths of a point settings as it once was. I deeply prefer to be able to see exact strength levels verses this rounded effect. I would be most grateful if anyone might have a way to simply allow the old version of seeing 10ths of a point strength levels verses this rounded effect?

Thank you kindly,

Socialist

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:25 am
by gwgardner
I would think that a socialist would deeply approve of rounding everything down.

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:52 am
by Socialist


Greetings once more,

Well that was clever of you, but alas I would hope to find an answer to this most minor issue. I find that the decimals allow me to control the waste of attacks and reduce the need to add more into a given battle than is necessary. It also allows one to determine effects of airial tactical attacks verses the rounded effect. Hopefully there is someone who might know which file to modify to set the decimal system back into effect while keeping all other portions of the update active.

:) thanks for the reply in any case


Socialist

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:30 pm
by gwgardner
You're most welcome.

Capitalist

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:59 pm
by Michael the Pole
ORIGINAL: Socialist



Greetings and salutations,

The new update to game is very nice indeed but it was noted that the rounding of strength factors was to be optional and I have yet to find how to place it back to partial ..10ths of a point settings as it once was. I deeply prefer to be able to see exact strength levels verses this rounded effect. I would be most grateful if anyone might have a way to simply allow the old version of seeing 10ths of a point strength levels verses this rounded effect?

Thank you kindly,

Socialist
I disagree most strongly with everything you believe in, but will defend to the death your right to express your beliefs.

In this case, I too dislike the imposition of the socialist rounding to the lowest denomenator, but while we can often express an opinion, we rarely get a vote. I'm afraid that we're probably stuck with it.

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:05 pm
by Andrew Loveridge
The decimals are still shown in the details on the side for the active unit, and during combined attacks.  Don't know if there is a way to mod it to show the full value on the counters/sprites.

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:47 pm
by Bleck
There is no way to mod it right now, it can be only changed in code. We can change it back to decimal system but only if most of you guys want it back... few votes is no enough ;)

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:10 pm
by gwgardner
I vote for a return of the decimal!

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:25 pm
by Uxbridge
I vote against it. Or make it an option.

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:33 pm
by oldspec4
I also liked the decimal..

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:42 pm
by Mike Parker
egads please no to the decimal.  Optimally I would love a check box, or one of those nifty f# options to toggle between them.  The whole layout looks so much nicer with whole numbers.. reducing screen clutter is NOT just appealing to my anal side, in a game of this scope a cleaner/easier look makes a huge difference when your trying to pour over the map to see the big picture.
 

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:48 pm
by cpdeyoung
An option for decimals would be best. I have learned to live without it, but there are times.

One thing I would like is a function key to highlight all units that could use replacements. It is burdensome to have to click down a long line each turn looking for damaged units. If someone knows an easier way to do this I would love to know it.

Chuck

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:02 pm
by Wolfe1759
Changing from decimals to rounded numbers has been a big impovement in the look of the counters (particularaly with some of the excellent mods) and was pretty near the top of my wish list prior to the 1.60 patch. Also from my boardgaming perspective I've always hated factor counting to get to the next break point in the CRTs thus the rounding system works fine for me.

As an option fine, just as long as I don't have to use it myself.

cpdeyoung - understrength units will have a little blinking dot (second one down out of the possible three) though this isn't on some of the modded counters which you may be using

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:12 pm
by gwgardner
ORIGINAL: cpdeyoung

An option for decimals would be best. I have learned to live without it, but there are times.

One thing I would like is a function key to highlight all units that could use replacements. It is burdensome to have to click down a long line each turn looking for damaged units. If someone knows an easier way to do this I would love to know it.

Chuck
Carnifex's (sp?) counter mod has that feature when one zooms out to the flag level.

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:17 pm
by Mike Parker
Yeah Carni's mod is a real help.  I zoom out to the flag level note the units with an amber dot next to them (really easy to see) then I zoom in to see the unit and decide on the repairs. 

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:23 pm
by doomtrader
A poll, a poll!

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:23 pm
by Socialist


Greetings once more,

I quite understand if you hardcoded the new system..I can surely work around it. I just enjoy the aspect of seeing exact strengths so that I can control losses and waste of attacks. I love micromanaging such encounters. I just hoped it was optional to switch on/off. I am sure most like the simplicity but in this niche market, I love the ability to know exactly how strong my units are to manage the reinforcement schedule for all my good soviets.. its rather difficult keeping them all combat worthy. What occurs is I will end up over compensating when I can use average production to keep them viable. Well no worries, I enjoy the game either way just wished that the decimal ability would be a choice for us micromanagers.

Thanks for all your responses, Comrades


Jonny the Red

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:42 pm
by NefariousKoel
An option would be nice.

While rounding it off cleans the counters up, I think I'd rather have the decimal showing just so I can keep from darting my eyes back and forth across the screen so much.  I probably look psychotic.

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:28 pm
by pzpat
I, too, vote for the decimal. I think the 1.5 version of the counters looked way cool (but I play with one of the mods). Bending to what seems to be the popular will, adding the decimal as an option appears to be the better choice.[:)]

RE: Love new patch but wish to keep decimal strength not rounded up/down version ..how to change this?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:31 pm
by Tomokatu
I would think that a socialist would deeply approve of rounding everything down.

We actually prefer to RAISE all levels to equality, but I recognise and accept that you've been fed propaganda and therfore have an incorrect perception.