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When will we see a new Close Combat game? Don't get me wrong, I love the remake of CC5 and look forward to the remake of Market Garden which is rumored. However, I would really love to see some new titles out there too. [:(]

Let me say what I'd really like to see...

I would like to see an easily modable Pacific version of CC. Make an official game out of Guadalcanal or something and then give modders easy ability to mod it into Burma campaigns or Malaysia or China or something. I think the Pacific would be a great new CC venue. [8D]

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

I would like to see an easily modable Pacific version of CC

If it's easily moddable then it doesn't really matter where it's set. What's more important (IMHO) are restrictions we cannot outflank such as the limitations on campaign length and the number of maps.

What exactly is the defination for new?
I've seen this topic so many times and more often than not it only starts with ones wishes for a particular campaign (no offense gary)

God knows I have my opinions.
A worldbuilder like Company of Heros has would be nice.But a lot of people seem to dislike that idea.

Real weather!
I've been playing a map on COH called Bizory and it's very nice that when the Battle starts it's just sunny as the day goes on it starts snowing and then it gets dark.After it gets dark your soldiers stop yelling and begin to whisper.
And graphics graphics and more graphics

Now granted the gameplay isnt as attractive as CC but apparently some people have modded that.

Intersting mick

Isn't that scene you show rather sterile?


Does the snow build up on the ground and buildings?

Nice looking vehicle though.

You have previously posted that you see no point in night time battles, have you changed your mind or are you just all over the shop?

It's not really Dark in COH but it's enough to make the player understand whats going on.
The scene is sterile as it's my 1st attempt at building a map with worldbuilder.(Bit of a learning curve for myself)
One can add Vehicles/soldiers etc etc Im assuming for scale purposes.

The snow does not build up on the ground or on the roofs or even the trees.

And I do not agree with the way night battles look for CC nor do I expect much from it in terms of gameplay.
For WAR I could understand early morning battles on the opening of the GC (same thing as night) so no I dont consider myself all over the place.

Whats interesting about COH for me atleast is the huge modding community,I used to think such 3D models wouldnt get much attention in terms of modding but I was wrong.
Some of the work I've seen is very impressive.

What is "COH" ???


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Company of Heros

ORIGINAL: Platoon_Michael

A worldbuilder like Company of Heros has would be nice. But a lot of people seem to dislike that idea.

Standard question Mike:

Does Company of Heros map editor allow a top down view with no fisheye?

Company of Heroes is such a bad game I am amazed in appears in a wargaming forum!

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ORIGINAL: Platoon_Michael

Company of Heros

if you are implying the next rendition of CC should go 3D, then that would be Theatre O War 3. Therefore Close Combat as we know it would no longer exist. No point going there, just play TOW 3 right?

I agree a next generation engine should be pursued for the future of the series. 3D is not required. 2.5D at most. Larger maps, scroll zoom, map motion ie water flowing, trees swaying. Tighter sprite animation. 3D illusion techniques for sure. If matrix doesn't take the next step its unlikely to ever happen. I can't see any other game company ever pursuing a traditional close combat style game.

I think so,
In worldbuilder you can pan out much further than the default game will let you.
The camra settings for Max Zoom can be edited in the game but I havent gotten around to it yet.
I dont know if the camera angle can be edited in game.

Here is the default zoom in world editor (with the camera angle at it's max position (That I know of)
This is a picture from our own Gary Childress (How To) who figured out how to add units to Maps

Here is a pic that I think you want to see Talorgan.
You can go pan so far out in worldbuilder that the map will actually dissapear.
My system is Good as far as running the game but I definatly need a new graphics card in order to get it up to Great.
Currently I only have 128MB
I've been told I should also upgrade to Windows 64 bit to get the best use out of all the memory I have.
I'm using a 24" Monitor with the settings at 1280X1024

I found out yesterday that worldbuilder is a HUGE memory hog and it bogs my system down a lot when loading this map.
Worldbuilder also shows all animation like this map that has smoking wrecks and rain/snow if you applied that option.

As far as game play goes I dont know if it's as bad as what Joe 98 says.
I've tried One mod so far and have another yet to install.
And yet a 3rd over Xmas Holidays.
It's a BotB mod
I do however dislike units shooting at each other just mere inches apart.Hopefully thats something they corrected.
The game has replays too.

Reading the info about the Mods looks to me people have changed the things I dont like but well see.
The games pretty cheap,you can get a Gold Edition at Best Buy for $20 that contains the first two games.

Also interesting is it doesnt matter which version you have to play online as long as you are both patched up to 2.601
So you could have one version and your friend have a different version and stil be able to play a Skirmish against each other.
The Campaigns are unlocked by entering the CD Key and need no further instalation (No strat map)

You can rotate the Camera as well
I reduced the Image size considerably
I dont know if the skirts are missing due to Damage or my grahpics card.This shot was taken after the Battle was over.

Night Battle at Bizory(Skirmish Mode)
This map starts out with Daylight changes to Night then it starts snowing.
I've read you can have Fog in the morning,sun during the day then snow at Night but havent seen it yet.
Assuming your battle lasts that long.

Have you tried Men of War? it can be modded.

For the next game I would like to see some kind of way-point pathing system so its easier to flank instead of having to watch and move that unit until it has flanked the enemy

CC already has a waypoint system, read your manual.


Choose a command , hold down shift and place way points with a left mouse click.

Up to 20 way points may be placed.

ORIGINAL: gunny

that would be Theatre O War 3. Therefore Close Combat as we know it would no longer exist. No point going there, just play TOW 3 right?

Does ToW III take psychology and morale into account the way Close Combat does?

ORIGINAL: Platoon_Michael

Here is a pic that I think you want to see Talorgan

Many thanks, but looks like it's "fisheye positive".

ORIGINAL: CSO_Talorgan

ORIGINAL: gunny

that would be Theatre O War 3. Therefore Close Combat as we know it would no longer exist. No point going there, just play TOW 3 right?

Does ToW III take psychology and morale into account the way Close Combat does?

Not meant to come across as a hype for TOW at the expense of close combat. My context being to modernize close combat without it coming across as a TOW look alike. Morale is one positive attribute yes. I also add terrain effects on vehicles as another +1 for CC.