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BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:44 pm
by chesmart
BF-109E-3 Stats:

MVR L 25
M 25
MH 22
H 19
VH 15

Service rating 1

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RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:48 pm
by chesmart
BF-109G-6

MVR L 23
M 23
MH 21
H 18
VH 15

Service Rating 1

What do you guys think about range and drop tanks ?

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RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:51 pm
by chesmart
BF-109K-10

MVR L 20
M 20
MH 18
H 18
VH 15

Same as above what do you think about range and drop tanks ?

Service rating 1

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RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:55 pm
by chesmart
BF-109T-1

MVR L 25
M 25
MH 22
H 19
VH 15

Service rating 2
Same as above What do you think about range and drop tanks ?

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RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:28 pm
by Dali
T-1 max speed 453 ??

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:38 pm
by chesmart
That is the data i found dali. Do you have better data ?

BTW sending you PM now

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:50 pm
by Dili
Can't be. Certainly about 540kph.

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:56 pm
by chesmart
I thought WITP AE used MPH ?

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:13 pm
by chesmart
It would be 335 M/H max speed ? I think it is too slow, slower than BF-109E ? 

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:18 pm
by Dali
I bet around 350 ..
Based on the model of Me-109E and greater wingspan tend to improve availability and climb, but certainly not speed ....

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:51 pm
by chesmart
So what do you think the climb rate should be for all models ?

Regarding speed of BF-109T i am looking into it and service rating is 2 because of thin undercarriage and the fragility of the plane in carrier landings.

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:43 pm
by Nemo121
FW-190A8, F and 190D stats?

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:08 pm
by chesmart
It will be in a new thread Nemo, Models I am looking at are :

FW-190A-3
FW-190A-8
FW-190D-9
TA-152H

By any chance do you have any stats for BF-109T or any of the other models above as I am not that happy with the high altittude Maneuverability especially of the K and G models ?

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:24 pm
by JuanG
A few things;

1) Normal range should be ~80% of Extended range from my understanding.

2) Manuever ratings should decrease slightly as speed increases.

3) I would suggest service ratings of atleast 2 because of the complexity of the inline engines and Japans relative inexperience with them.

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:35 pm
by chesmart
Interesting Juan Ranges are my biggest problem at present still playing around with them and the drop tanks. Regarding Service rating I was thinking that I would have German units Service them as I will be placing a German expeditionary force to your excellent MOD with additional naval ships BBs and CVs. So do you think german units would have had the same service rating problems ? And I am having second thoughts regarding the maneuverability ratings in the high altitude area for the BF-109s as from what I am reading it was Germany's premiere high altitude fighter as FW-190 did not perform well at high altitude.



RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:42 pm
by JuanG
For ranges I would scale them off the ranges of a comparable plane like the Ki-61, meaning look at the ratio of Max/Ext/Nrm ranges for that and put yours in a similar ratio.

For drop tanks, if you know how much fuel the plane carried internally you can estimate the effect of different drop tanks on it roughly.

As for manuever ratings, I think 15 is reasonable for high alt. I dont know much about the Fw190s performance, but would guess they would be lower across the board, maybe moreso at high alttitude.

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:47 pm
by chesmart
Juan tomorrow i Will be posting the updated BF-109 Stats and in a new thread the FW-190 Stats will see what i come up with and we can compare them.

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:29 am
by trojan58
Dont forget possibly the best version of the Me 109, the Me 109 F-2

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:10 am
by Sardaukar
ORIGINAL: Dali

T-1 max speed 453 ??

That is 728 km/h..since it's in mph in Witp/AE. [8D]

RE: BF-109 Stats For Ultimate Axis MOD

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:31 pm
by HerzKaraya
Hi,

even though the search for an editor for the map is still going on,
I've migrated most of the War in Russia Mod from the regular WitP
to AE. Lots of new data and options await...
Maybe this plane data can help you with the data for your own Mod,
I'd also appreciate any feedback, suggestions, critics, ....



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