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Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:49 pm
by Coach Z
I never realized that Helens could carry torpedoes!
On February 28th, 1943 several Helens in conjunction with several bomb ladden Sally's & Helens attack a British TF 240 miles west of Tavoy.

Day Air attack on TF at 24,37

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 20
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 35

Allied aircraft
Wildcat V x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Victorious, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Valiant, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Birmingham
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CA Frobisher

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet

4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet

RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:00 pm
by flaggelant
are you playing a mod or stock?

RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:30 pm
by Misconduct
Yeah it must be a mod, Stock would not have Ki-49's carrying Torpedoes, although it could very well carry a torpedo as the maximum load is 2,200lbs, but I don't recall any times it ever has. 

RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:35 pm
by Coach Z
Sorry Guys NO MOD ...STOCK Turning Point Scenario!

RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:55 am
by rominet
ORIGINAL: Coach Z

I never realized that Helens could carry torpedoes!
On February 28th, 1943 several Helens in conjunction with several bomb ladden Sally's & Helens attack a British TF 240 miles west of Tavoy.

Day Air attack on TF at 24,37

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 20
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 35

Allied aircraft
Wildcat V x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Victorious, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Valiant, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Birmingham
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CA Frobisher

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet

4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet

Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?

RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:02 pm
by flaggelant
rominet, do you know something we dont?? [X(]

RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:00 pm
by Coach Z
ORIGINAL: rominet

Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?


Nope!


RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:05 pm
by rominet
ORIGINAL: flaggelant

rominet, do you know something we dont?? [X(]

I don't know but recently, i had a strange bug.
I discovered that many of my fighter groups had not the good weapons.
I show you some screens:

Image
Good A6M2
Image
Bad A6M2

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Good A6M3
Image
Bad A6M3

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Good Oscar
Image
Bad Oscar

Image
Good Tojo
Image
Bad Tojo

My opinion is that this bug may appear when i recombine the 3 fragment A/B/C in 1 unit. Sometimes (i don't know why only sometimes), the change in weapons appears.

And it occured at least once with a bomber unit.
One day, i discovered that one of my Lily II unit (upgraded from Lily I) had 3x250kg bombs. It shouln't.
In my game, the Lily II must have 8x100kg bombs.
I was surprised. But now, i understand.

Perhaps the Helen had the same trouble.[&:]

RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:06 pm
by rominet
ORIGINAL: Coach Z

ORIGINAL: rominet

Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?


Nope!


Has your Helen's unit been upgraded from an other plane or not?

RE: Torpedoing Helens?

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:59 pm
by Coach Z


Has your Helen's unit been upgraded from an other plane or not?
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Yes they were upgraded, but they upgraded from LILLYs to HELENs.