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I dont thinks this options works, does Auto-Generated Empires have to be checked in order for this option to work? I set independent races to teeming in a 700 star galaxy and none have generated yet, or advanced enough to become an empire.

No, but there are only 20 empire slots. Unless one is eliminated, the independents cannot rise.

I would personally like to see that limit removed, might just be me though But anyway, I believe an independent will only rise once there planet development is high enough I saw this because I once used the editor the add an independent race and put there develop abit high, and within 5 minutes they were an empire

actually it does work, i've seen it a few times already in my games (larger maps, in which i usually put 10 predefined/generated empires at start) alas they usually dont last too long vs. pirates or other hostile empires at their doorstep.

Independents do rise. Started a game with three AIs. Encountered about 6 AIs yet, some of them very small. I guess you can distinguish them from normal empire by the name. The big empires i've met, two of the Dhayut, have their race name in their empires name. The Humans, Ketarov and Haakonish i've met and suspect of being risen empires cause of their size all have their home system in their name.

The 20-limit just sets the max starting number of players. Each and any independent colony can form a new empire as can each faction produce new empires (rebels).

Before the game was released I did a lot of reading and collating facts about DW and I am sure that one of them was you can start with max 20 empires including your own but those empires and yours can split due to rebellion etc. up to a max of 50. Maybe Erik or Elliot can correct me if I am wrong.