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A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:42 pm
by MarkShot
A retrospective from whence we came.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:49 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
Sorry for not quoting you, Markshot, but I don't want to give the Internet a bandwidth hernia. [;)]

But, hey, am I the only one that misses the radio?

The game that was published by Battlefront came with heckuva printed manual, BTW.

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:49 pm
by captskillet
Damn Mark, I almost want to reload HTTR!

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:54 pm
by MarkShot
I only realized after making them that I hadn't reduced the JPG compression.

I am not sure where in the last four years we lost the radio. It was almost like a trade mark of the series.

The manual could actually be read by the naked eye. Additionally, MG analysis later became half of the HTTR Strategy Guide (a separate product still available for sale) and was removed from the HTTR manual.

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:59 pm
by MarkShot
Aside from the radio, it looks like we also lost the objective descriptions.

I remember the first release of RDOA had most unit/commander data represented by a text tag. In one of the patches that was switched to a bar presentation. A big improvement as it was hard to know exactly how the text tags compared.

I think HTTR introduced the dark and light blue bars such that you could compared start and end states.

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:09 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
It's a shame that BattleFront dismantled it's RDOA forum. They had some cool screenshots of a proposed Operation Crursader game. Along with playing RD, it was those images that hooked me on the AA engine and game concepts. From that point, forward, it's been my belief that this is simply the only way to do a proper operational, land-combat wargame.

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:14 pm
by MarkShot
PoE,

Well, if you really want something from the forums, I wrote a custom archive script and ran it just 24 hours before BTS took it offline. Talk about getting inside someone's OODA loop!

So, if you want it, I could give you a zip of the public forum (16Mb).

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:17 pm
by MarkShot
Dave looks quite a bit younger in the RDOA game credits. No doubt that burning candle on both ends for the last 10 years have taken their toll on his dashing personage.

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:28 pm
by MarkShot
oops ... double post

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:29 pm
by wodin
I have them all:)

Though I gave my dad Red Devils...

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:30 pm
by MarkShot
You're a good son! No one is getting my RDOA.

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:35 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: MarkShot

PoE,

Well, if you really want something from the forums, I wrote a custom archive script and ran it just 24 hours before BTS took it offline. Talk about getting inside someone's OODA loop!

So, if you want it, I could give you a zip of the public forum (16Mb).

Will it include the graphics?

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:40 pm
by MarkShot
Re graphics: yes

PM me with a current email address and I will make it available for download this afternoon.

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:50 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
Awesome, Markshot, Thanks! [&o]

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:48 pm
by Perturabo
Hah. At the moment I have a printed out RDOA tutorial manual on my lap and I'm doing the first tutorial.

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:10 pm
by CriticalMass
I think you're all missing something [;)]

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:16 pm
by MarkShot
I thought Dave did some game before that about alien (as in extraterrestial) drug smugglers. Apparently it was met with rave reviews by Australian TV news for corrupting the youth of Australia. As I understand it, the rest of Dave's game design career has been to chart a path beyond that incident.

When it comes to destroying family values with video games, Dave was definitely ahead of the curve. :)

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:10 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
Deep from the bowels of Markshot's Internet archive, proof emerges of what was supposed to have been the second game!

This would be Desert Crusade, the focus, Operation Crusader:

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:28 pm
by blastpop
Of course an intrepid gamer might make the Crusader scenario with new available tools with the new game?

RE: A retrospective for all you fans ...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:41 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: blastpop

Of course an intrepid gamer might make the Crusader scenario with new available tools with the new game?

Not unless the CotA estabs are massaged into working with BftB estab editor.

It simply won't happen.