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Shouldn't more support be damaged/destroyed? I've been hammering Malay with hundreds of bombers and never manage more than 5-10 casualties per raid.

Hehe, yeah, I know the frustration. As the Allies I've been blasting everything that can conceivably harbour a Jap torp bomber, but no matter what I do, some Betties always manage to sortie from somewhere and invariably sink any important capital ship in any formation I have nearby...

To clarify, I'm getting tons of aircraft destroyed on the ground, that's not the problem. It's the actual base units that should take more casualties. Right now it seems like they get a free pass.

You have to train up your aircrews in Level Bombing (AF Attack), right now i'm averaging around 500 4E's hitting Makassar, first raid I trashed the AF to 100% damage. Wiped out entire squadron of Ki-84s while I was at it.

Here's my raid on the survivors of Makassar on ground attack (yeah I trained them up pretty good):
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Morning Air attack on 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 65,105

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 11
B-24D Liberator x 54
B-24D1 Liberator x 65
B-25C Mitchell x 41
B-25D1 Mitchell x 27
B-25G Mitchell x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 44


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 13 damaged
B-25G Mitchell: 6 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
1398 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 94 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 47th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 12th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 47th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 47th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 12th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 12th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 47th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 12th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 47th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...


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ORIGINAL: The Gnome

Shouldn't more support be damaged/destroyed? I've been hammering Malay with hundreds of bombers and never manage more than 5-10 casualties per raid.

What you need to do, is trash the AF and Port to 100% damage until it stays at 100%, then if you want to do casualties then you need to Ground attack, however don't bother doing this unless there are no supplies because 1 AAA unit can ruin your day.

Bombing at 4000 feet seems pretty nasty... I wonder if they flew that low historically?

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

Bombing at 4000 feet seems pretty nasty... I wonder if they flew that low historically?

Historically I think 2E's did, B-25H's were known to fly at 100ft and skip bomb and even para frag bomb the runways. They carried 20x 100lb bombs that had para's so the plane could avoid the blast, but also have pinpoint accuracy.

4E's on other hand, don't think they did.

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

Bombing at 4000 feet seems pretty nasty... I wonder if they flew that low historically?

Well, if AA was expected, mediums went in at treetop. One run, line abreast and then out of there. Not always but it was considered a good way to survive.

I think it's beyond silly for us to be setting altitude anyway.