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Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:13 pm
by Uffz Feuerhake
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7129718785#

Der große König (1942)

User Review: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034814/

'Der Große König' ('The Great King') was a Nazi propaganda film which won the 1942 Coppa Mussolini prize as the best foreign film released in Italy that year. One assumes that Mussolini's film critics were not completely objective. And yet this movie has excellent production values and a gripping story which (despite its too-long running time) still make it an appealing film for those of us who aren't Nazis.

This film recounts the travails of Prussian king Friedrich the Second during the battle of Kunersdorf, when his army were decimated by the Austrian forces. Just when defeat seemed certain, Russia's czar Peter the Great sent reinforcements.

When this movie was made, the early victories of Hitler's army were long past ... and it was now starting to look as if Germany might lose the war after all. 'The Great King' was clearly made to inspire German audiences to continue the struggle against overwhelming odds. Despite its odious Nazi agenda, this film is still eminently watchable. The battle scenes are impressive, and Otto Gebühr gives a fine performance in the lead role as Friedrich. There's also a splendid turn by Paul Wegener as the leader of the Russian forces. Wegener was a stiff and very mannered actor, but he manages to turn those traits to his advantage here.

Gustav Fröhlich, best known for playing the idealistic youth in 'Metropolis', gives a splendidly earnest performance here as Sergeant Treskow, who violates orders to give a crucial command to his men ... with disastrous results. The propaganda message here is that good Germans shouldn't take the initiative and think for themselves: instead, they should follow the orders of their wise leaders who know what's best for them.

Even though this movie is Nazi agitprop, the Third Reich imagery isn't crammed down our throats here the way it is in 'Triumph of the Will'. You can enjoy this movie without feeling any urge to goose-step. But the story could have been told more effectively in a shorter running time.
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- color: b/w
- language: german / ... and austrian :-)
- big battle szenes with infantry and cavalry / uniforms / ...



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RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:49 pm
by PrinzHenrich
Yes, I seen it, too much grenadiers in Kunersdorf, and what a non historic background in Schweidnitz 1762!
The battle  scenes are poor in my opinion, but  .. this is the only one ....



RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:25 pm
by Magnus
Very nice too bad it wasn´t in colour. However the first battle at Kunersdorf I think the Prussians looks very unorganize, no firing in lines and charging like crazy. Same with Cavalry no cohesion.

RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:32 pm
by Uffz Feuerhake
Some nice scenes from: Barry Lyndon

"Barry Lyndon is a 1975 period film by Stanley Kubrick loosely based on the 1844 novel The Luck of Barry Lyndon by William Makepeace Thackeray. It recounts the exploits of a 18th century Irish adventurer, particularly his rise and fall in English society. Ryan O'Neal stars as the title character." (...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7wEUlpa ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCS8K6eO ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30PGeCGL ... re=related





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RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:14 am
by PrinzHenrich
Yeah, I seen it, better than Der Grosse Konig

RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:38 am
by Uffz Feuerhake
Some scenes from: Der Choral von Leuthen (1933)

Der Choral von Leuthen (The Hymn of Leuthen) was a 1933 German film depicting Frederick the Great, directed by Carl Froelich. The screenplay was written by Johannes Brandt and Ilse Spath-Baron. The film starred Otto Gebühr, Olga Tschechowa and Elga Brink. The film was loosely based on the novel Fridericus by Walter von Molo. The film premiered four days after Adolf Hitler became chancellor of the Reich. (WIKIPEDIA)


- color: b/w
- quality: lousy [:@]
- language: german
- big battle szenes with infantry and cavalry / uniforms / with the known critics


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3fmDGwO ... re=related (1/2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajYpy6MO ... re=related (2/2)



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RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:49 am
by PrinzHenrich
szenes=scenes

RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:10 am
by Uffz Feuerhake
Here some samples [:D] from: Der alte und der junge König (1935) - The old and the young King
I like it !!

Potsdam 1730. The young Crown Prince Friedrich revolts itself against his father, „the soldier king “Friedrich Wilhelm I. Instead of preparing for his role as a heir to the throne, Friedrich rather follows to his musical dispositions. When the king notices that he cannot educate his son with twisting, discipline and hardness to a worthy successor, he lets execute its friend Katte and dungeons the prince in. Only on the dying bed it comes to a clarifying discussion between father and son…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y51bEgQ2S9w (Wake up roll)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vi6hdCm6-A (Erbprinz von Bayreuth meets Soldatenkönig in working clothes) [8|]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhW4PxhbZM (Tabakskollegium)

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RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:55 am
by Magnus

RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:14 pm
by Uffz Feuerhake
Hi Magnus,

it is a cheap Televison Documentary from the ZDF (Zweites Deutsches Fernsehen).
The Documentary is called " Die Deutschen"(The Germans), this is the 6th of 10 parts called
"Preussens Friedrich"(Prussias Frederic)

The uniforms and the actors are rediculous and the swordfighting and killing Friedrich during a battle has the same historic background like a swingdancing Hitler....
God save us from young and historic clueless filmmakers

RE: Cinema-Movies about SYW

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:37 pm
by Uffz Feuerhake
http://www.viddler.com/explore/Paukenschlag/videos/13/

At last, the complete Fridericus (1939)

User review: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0136208/
"Fridericus' is one of several German films recounting the military career of Prussia's king Friedrich the Second. An earlier version, the silent film 'Fridericus Rex' (made before Hitler's rise to power), has little to recommend it beyond a good performance by Werner Krauss in a supporting role. 'Fridericus' was made barely a year after 'Der Alte und der Junge König', another biography of Friedrich. The best and most elaborate of these biopics is 'Der Grosse Konig', made in 1942. 'Fridericus' stars Otto Gebuhr in the title role: the same actor who portrayed Friedrich in 'Der Grosse Konig' (The Great King).

'Fridericus' is a less effective film than 'The Great King' (basically a remake), but a comparison of the two films is interesting. 'Fridericus' was made in 1936, when Hitler was firmly in power but the Second World War had not started yet. 'The Great King' was made in 1942, when Hitler's biggest victories were past and it was likely that the Third Reich would lose the war. This explains why 'The Great King' places greater emphasis on Friedrich's military struggle against superior forces and overwhelming odds.

There's nothing in 'Fridericus' that isn't done better in 'The Great King', including Otto Gebuhr's performance in the title role. The best thing in 'Fridericus' is a brief performance by beautiful dark-eyed Lil Dagover as Madame Pompadour."




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