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Leaders created with Great Stats?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:42 pm
by medicff
Latest patch, New Start vs Jap AI, DaBabes Scenario 28 (JWE states no leader changes).
Attempting to change leader of CV Yorktown or Task Force I get the following choices.
I am not sure how AE deals with random leaders or if there still are ones created but the only references to the leaders in Question are Carey, J (8331) and Ward, H W (14800) which are not exact.
These leaders are still there (in fact one was assigned as random tf leader with tf creation) and I have saves.
Pat

RE: Leaders created with Great Stats?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:51 am
by Don Bowen
The code for generating a TF leader includes a random value based on the number of ships in the TF. This is intended to reflect the probability that a better leader would be selected for a larger TF. In order to get stats like those the TFs must be at maximum size AND get a very favorable die roll.
There are indeed issues with extreme values (at both ends). I'd suggest you enjoy your top quality leaders. You may not see such again for a long time.
RE: Leaders created with Great Stats?
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:22 am
by medicff
Actually started when I just want to replace the Yorktown's commander. Looking in tracker he actually has NEGATIVE values. I think there must be an error in the creation causing the numbers. Don't know if its reproducible but I still have the leaders it created.
RE: Leaders created with Great Stats?
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:33 am
by michaelm75au
In theory, leader stats are suppose to be out of 100.
Probably explains why to Tracker these numbers have gone funny.
RE: Leaders created with Great Stats?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:18 am
by Chryse
ORIGINAL: michaelm
In theory, leader stats are suppose to be out of 100.
Probably explains why to Tracker these numbers have gone funny.
I am getting the whacky trait numbers as well in 2/42 with latest patch. Only seem to get them when picking a task force commander. When selecting a single ship commander the numbers appear normal thus far. However, routinely getting numbers in the 200's when picking a task force commander so this is not rare by any stretch of the imagination.
Btw, playing allies against AI and these task forces are not unusually large. Just happened picking a task force commander for a 7 ship task foce.
RE: Leaders created with Great Stats?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:22 pm
by davbaker
I always assumed it was a display bug and stayed away from them.
To confirm: these TF leaders with 200+ skills are 'real' in game i.e. they're not using the '-' values that show up in Tracker?
I have about 5 or 6 in my current PBEM with latest patch.
RE: Leaders created with Great Stats?
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:23 am
by floydg
WitPTracker treats the attributes as signed bytes, since we assumed the values would be 100 or less. So any value above 127 appears as a negative number (2's complement).
Floyd
RE: Leaders created with Great Stats?
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:33 am
by CaptBeefheart
In the latest patch using Juan's Scenario #46 I've seen this when picking leaders for amphib task forces from about mid-1943. A couple of them in the roster have land values higher than 100. I thought it was a feature, not a bug.
Cheers,
CC