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Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:24 pm
by a7v
Hi everybody,
a thread in the general forum about linked games brought back some long lost memories. Does anyone else here remember when in the nineties Gary´s Pacwar and carrier strike were the latest games of the pacific theater?
I remember that one guy in those days had a fascinating idea and started a project. The idea was, if a carrier battle was imminent in Pacwar, you would save the game and start an external program. This would load the save from Pacwar and save it as a carrier strike save. (Both games had very similar save formats)
Then you would start carrier strike and play the carrier battle on a tactical level, after the battle you would save and reimport the result into pacwar[X(].
Unfortunately the project never was finished. It was released as some kind of a beta and I was able to export battles from Pacwar and play them, but the reimport into pacwar never worked.
The author was one of the pacwar modders in those days and its a pity that there is nothing left of these old sites like the famous pacwar list or the old thegamers.net, where some guys started to mod sp2ww2, pacwar or WIR. They now are known as Matrix[;)]
Well, for me its a fascinating idea to play AE and when a carrier/surface battle is imminent you change to a tactical programm and play it out. Ok, I admit that a game would take a few years more [:D] but who cares...
I´ll have to live with the fact that some dreams never will come true[:(]
Best wishes
Rainer
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:59 pm
by topeverest
Dig out the old Flat Top and play it the old fashioned way...
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:18 pm
by greg_slith
And don't forget to get your Advanced Squad Leader games out to replay EVERY land battle.[:D][;)]
After all, individual squads ARE in the game so....[8|]
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:56 pm
by Smeulders
I demand silent hunter for sub and ASW attacks !
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:05 pm
by Nikademus
I remember playing "Carrier Force"
You just can't reproduce the suspense waiting for the combat portion of the game to load from the floppy after you've gotten a radar warning of incoming enemy aircraft during the orders phase. [:D]
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:34 pm
by vonTirpitz
I remember playing Grigsby's Guadalcanal campaign for days on an Apple II+.
The computer was right next to the family radio and I figured out that I could pick up EMI from the computer on some of the lower AM bands. The various electronic "chirps" and "chortles" eventually translated to the computer AI forming up TFs and planning air raids that added an interesting dimension to solitaire play. [:D]
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:58 pm
by Chickenboy
As far as naval games, I'm almost glad that I didn't get involved in PacWar. The only one that captured my interest was the Harpoon series.
CIV and CIV II must have cost me a full grade point average in College. [:@]
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:09 pm
by spartanwarrior
I remember played advanced squad leader and Strat-O-Matic baseball in the late 70's! Hours of fun until the dog knocked all the pieces off the board
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:40 pm
by Schanilec
The original AH Midway and Guadalcanal I bought back in `72. Still have both, plus about 40+ others, SPI, VG and such.
Every now and then I take one them out. And with Vassel I can play them on the computer. Don't have to worry about messing up the board.
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:06 pm
by tocaff
"AH Midway," now that brings back memories from the '60s.
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:06 am
by USSAmerica
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
As far as naval games, I'm almost glad that I didn't get involved in PacWar. The only one that captured my interest was the Harpoon series.
CIV and CIV II must have cost me a full grade point average in College. [:@]
I bought PacWar and CIV on the same trip to Egghead Software in Virginia Beach, many years ago. I was playing them on a 286 computer. [8D]
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:25 am
by Chickenboy
Oh! I nearly forgot the "Master of Orion" series. This one was also devastating to my GPA too!
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:31 am
by Central Blue
ORIGINAL: A7V_U
Hi everybody,
a thread in the general forum about linked games brought back some long lost memories. Does anyone else here remember when in the nineties Gary´s Pacwar and carrier strike were the latest games of the pacific theater?
I remember that one guy in those days had a fascinating idea and started a project. The idea was, if a carrier battle was imminent in Pacwar, you would save the game and start an external program. This would load the save from Pacwar and save it as a carrier strike save. (Both games had very similar save formats)
Then you would start carrier strike and play the carrier battle on a tactical level, after the battle you would save and reimport the result into pacwar[X(].
Unfortunately the project never was finished. It was released as some kind of a beta and I was able to export battles from Pacwar and play them, but the reimport into pacwar never worked.
The author was one of the pacwar modders in those days and its a pity that there is nothing left of these old sites like the famous pacwar list or the old thegamers.net, where some guys started to mod sp2ww2, pacwar or WIR. They now are known as Matrix[;)]
Well, for me its a fascinating idea to play AE and when a carrier/surface battle is imminent you change to a tactical programm and play it out. Ok, I admit that a game would take a few years more [:D] but who cares...
I´ll have to live with the fact that some dreams never will come true[:(]
Best wishes
Rainer
I seem to remember that Gary would update PacWar from time to time and you could download it from bulletin boards.
So, what's the phone number to get that mod? [:D]
I think there were some people doing similar with Harpoon and TOAW when the web came along but I'm old enough to be confused.
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:19 am
by AcePylut
I think I owned about every AH/VG title there was. My parents had no problems purchasing these games for me - because for the low low price of 50$, I would stay quiet and focused for hours and hours and hours... and plus, learning how to do all those odds calculations was very instructional for a young man growing up.
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:08 am
by morganbj
Ditto AcePylut.
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:07 pm
by Schanilec
Although back in the day. $7.00 for most any SPI game. AH Bookcase game were a bit more I think $15.00 or $18.00. The other AH games were around $7.00. Again that was in the early `70's. Boy that was many snows ago.
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:42 pm
by crsutton
It was just the best game...
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:54 pm
by Lecivius
ORIGINAL: crsutton
It was just the best game...
I still have this game, in it's original (and somewhat large) box! Dang thing takes a week to set up [:D]
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:19 pm
by Schanilec
Also a favorite. Also the last Guadalcanal AH put out. To bad I didn't get the General with the expansion for Coaral Sea. It was sold out.
RE: Linking games - old memories
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:10 pm
by pmelheck1
Do any of you remember rules of engagement by omnitrend? A tactical space combat game. It was supposed to be able to link to breach, a game of boarding combat. You would fight a tactical battle and when you boarded a ship you would switch to breach to resolve the boarding action then return to rules of engagement to finish resolving the tactical battle. I have seen other games that had similar switch to other types of combat but they were part of the main game not separate games. Only other game that would have been incredible if the tech and been up to it (but it wasn't) was the electronic battlefield of Spectrum Holobyte. The electronic battle field would have been still in use today if it could have been worked out.