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Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:46 am
by sabre1
Anyone use the Kindle to read PDF manuals?
I sure wish they made one in color? $380 is a lot for an electronic book, but I just spent $64 on 4 books and shipping from Amazon. Kindle could be cheaper in the long run, but dang if I don't like to hold the physical book in my hand. Maybe I would get use to the Kindle after awhile.
Of course being able to get a new book on a whim, could get expensive real quick. Probably worse than buying new games.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:57 am
by junk2drive
The only reason that I would want something hand held would be to play games or read manuals out of the house. I would think that a netbook or cheapo laptop would be a better option for me.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:31 am
by darken92
Ok, dumb question.
How do you use a Kindle to read the manuals? I have just been given a Kindle and would love to upload the AE manual,
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:42 am
by sabre1
Darken92, according to Amazon you should be able to hook it up to the USB port and dragndrop the PDF file. I did read somewhere that you cannot change fonts when the PDF file is on the Kindle, but don't quote me, since I don't personally own one yet.
Yes, Junk2drive, I agree, a netbook would probably suffice, and be more useful.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:52 am
by jomni
I use iPad and iPhone.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:58 am
by RyanCrierie
I have a Kindle 3 on order; it should be shipping any moment now.
When I get it at the end of the week, I'll let you know how it works with Matrix Manuals...
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:52 am
by sabre1
Thanks Ryan!
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:10 am
by rhondabrwn
I have quite a few manuals on my Kindle. You just hook up to your computer and as someone already mentioned, just drag and drop them to copy onto the Kindle. As also mentioned, you cannot change the font size as you can for Kindle books.
The big limitation is that you don't have an active index so you have to go page by page to find what you want. That's fine for just reading a manual at your convenience, but not so good if you are using it as a reference and need to find a specific rule in a hurry.
That said, it would be really cool if Matrix (or volunteers) could convert the manuals into an e-book format that would work with the Kindle, Nook, Sony Reader etc. Amazon "sells" lots of Kindle books for $0.00 that were developed in this way.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:01 am
by sterckxe
ORIGINAL: sabre1
Anyone use the Kindle to read PDF manuals?
I've tested the same pdf manual on both a Kindle and an iPad the same evening.
Kindle : b/w, flicking from one page to the next is sloooow, no zoom
iPad : color, flicking from one page to the next is blazingly fast, zoom, turn sideways .. the experience is 200% better.
Executive summary : after you've experienced reading a pdf manual on a tablet device like the iPad, you won't look twice at an eReader.
Now, I don't particularly like the no-Flash and closed shop approach of Apple so I will get me one of the inevitable iPad clones which will surface in the next couple of months.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:01 am
by Hertston
ORIGINAL: sterckxe
Executive summary : after you've experienced reading a pdf manual on a tablet device like the iPad, you won't look twice at an eReader.
I'd go with that. I've been loading .pdf manuals onto my Sony for some time, and it must be said some definitely 'work' a lot better than others, and the inability to 'flip through' is a pain. I love e-book readers in general (having a while library of your favourite books you can carry in your pocket is great) , but they do have their limitations as they are very much geared towards reading literature, not academic texts, .pdf manuals etc.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:41 pm
by Lützow
ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn
That said, it would be really cool if Matrix (or volunteers) could convert the manuals into an e-book format that would work with the Kindle, Nook, Sony Reader etc. Amazon "sells" lots of Kindle books for $0.00 that were developed in this way.
That's something one can do by himself. It just needs a pdf-to-epub converter.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:03 pm
by Fallschirmjager
.pdf reading on a Kindle is not that good but it is kind of a secondary function of the device. It was built from the ground up to read books and that is what it does.
And the Kindle vs iPad argument is kind of ridiculous considering they are not even in the same class. One is $130 and one is $600+
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:22 pm
by Capt. Harlock
I use iPad and iPhone.
Since one of the principles of my life is to defy the herd instinct, I use a Palm smart-phone. The screen is small, but it works.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:38 am
by kvob
You people using a kindle may want to try this.
http://calibre-ebook.com/
It's an application which will convert to kindle format and is eminently more readable (with scaleable fonts).
Cheers
kvob
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:02 am
by sterckxe
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager
And the Kindle vs iPad argument is kind of ridiculous considering they are not even in the same class. One is $130 and one is $600+
Yup - I agree - one is a single-function cheap toy where it's simply impractical and cumbersome to read pdf files - especially picture heavy ones - the other is an expensive multi-purpose toy where it's a joy to read pdf files. No contest whatsoever.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:20 am
by Marc von Martial
For the iPad guys. A great app for reading PDFs (and much more) is GoodReader.
http://www.goodiware.com/goodreader.html
Even more now as it now hooks up with dropbox. At 0.99 a nobrainer.
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:20 am
by Marc von Martial
ORIGINAL: sterckxe
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager
And the Kindle vs iPad argument is kind of ridiculous considering they are not even in the same class. One is $130 and one is $600+
Yup - I agree - one is a single-function cheap toy where it's simply impractical and cumbersome to read pdf files - especially picture heavy ones - the other is an expensive multi-purpose toy where it's a joy to read pdf files. No contest whatsoever.
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RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:09 am
by sterckxe
ORIGINAL: Marc von Martial
For the iPad guys. A great app for reading PDFs (and much more) is GoodReader.
http://www.goodiware.com/goodreader.html
Even more now as it now hooks up with dropbox. At 0.99 a nobrainer.
Zeus knows I'm not an Apple freak, I make my living on Wintel systems, only got Windows systems at home etc. but after an hour with an iPad was sold on it. The only thing holding me back from buying it is that the iPad 2 is rumoured to be out this year or early 2011 and there's bound to be competing products coming out from HP, the Toshiba Folio, Archos, MSI, Hanvon and others which may not have the 2 main drawbacks of the iPad : no Flash and no file system.
Let me put it like this : before I played around with the iPad I was in the market for an eReader, today I'm not.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:27 pm
by RyanCrierie
Ok, I loaded my WITP AE Manual [LIGHT] on my K3; and here's my take:
Loading the PDF WITP-AE manual takes longer than a conventional kindle text only book; but not that much. Page flips are a mite slower, but not that slow.
Didn't try the "search for stuff" part yet.
The picture's better than what this shows -- kindles don't photograph well.
The biggest problem so far is that the K3 is just not optimal for reading PDFs like this manual, due to it's screen size.
It can be done....but honestly you're better off getting a Kindle DX.
The problem is the DX costs $379, and is significantly larger than the K3.
So if you want a portable PDF reader, wait one more generation for both the Tablets (iPad Clones) and Kindle DXes to come down in price and increase in value. Right now, we are still in the "Early adopter" phase for those.

RE: Kindle for reading manuals?
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:11 pm
by htuna
Think I"m getting a Kindle for my Bday (late gift), but definitely wanted to use it for manuals... I agree GoodReader is great (I have it for my Itouch), I'm just not a fan of the tiny screen (even though I do thoroughly enjoy my Itouch for games and music.. but in a pinch GoodReader is great for looking up stuff on a PDF.. NO I'm not gonna go out and spend 500 for an IPad!