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Poland forces

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:52 pm
by Dancing Bear
I notice when the kingdom of Poland is declared, it starts with all its forces. Is this the way it is meant to happen? Does this happen to other kingdoms?

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:06 am
by pzgndr
I noted several discrepancies between the EiA/EiH OOBs and the game's default setups when I prepared my custom scenario using the editor.  For example, Bavaria starts with all its forces and maybe shouldn't?  This is a good topic for discussion.
 
Once Marshall completes the classic map and classic OOB, perhaps we can scrutinize the default setups and make official updates.  Else, there's always the editor...

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:59 am
by Mardonius
It only happens with Poland, to me experience We construed it was a bug.

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:43 pm
by Dancing Bear
Do you guys know if there is an easy way to remove units, in this case garrisons from the board?

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:23 am
by Yearworld
According to the EIA minor countries chart, Poland should start with no forces in an 1805 game. The mistake that causes Poland to have forces is that it is treated like other minor nations with starting forces but since there cannot be a DOW of war when you create Poland all the forces are available. For example Bavaria when DOW by a power starts with 11I and 2C. If someone DOWs Bavaria then conquers it all remaining forces disappear and do not return if Bavaria is later declared a free state. However, if Bavaria is awarded to a country by the ally process or because war lapses then these forces remain. Poland is wrongly treated as the second case(ally/war lapse) but should really start with 0 0 forces.

The simple fix is to change Poland to a 0Infantry and 0Cav in the editor.

Yeaworld

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:45 pm
by PrinzHenrich
Poland have some troops and unit in 1796 and in the Italians war (up to 1800). Then they stop existing as a separate units in 1802. Then they were create as a North Legions (1806) and futhur as a army of Warsav ...... you know !

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:51 am
by MarshallEllis
ORIGINAL: Dancing Bear

I notice when the kingdom of Poland is declared, it starts with all its forces. Is this the way it is meant to happen? Does this happen to other kingdoms?

I believe all kingdoms start this way???

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:47 pm
by Mardonius
Nope. Not the OE, at least. Should not happen.

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:54 pm
by Yearworld
Mardonius is right neither OE or Poland should start with any forces. OE doesn't start with forces but Poland wrongly does. This is the problem.

Yearworld

RE: Poland forces

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:23 pm
by Dancing Bear
Sounds like the base scenario should be fixed. I'll post it to Mantis.

In the meantime, does anyone know how to remove forces that already placed? Can you remove garrisons?